What Saves You

Sundae · 03-30-2007, 11:54 AM

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Griff · 03-30-2007, 12:29 PM

ouchy

Spexxvet · 03-30-2007, 12:49 PM

Did somebody fart?

Hime · 03-30-2007, 01:31 PM

I get annoyed at church signs a lot. My suspicion is that the messages are written to appeal to the people who already go to the church, or make a reference to something said in a sermon, etc, and don't really take into account that other people see them too.

I got really annoyed by one that said "Be ye fishers of men: you catch them, He'll clean them." My SO (who is a Christian) explained that Jesus told his disciples to be "fishers of men," meaning that they should convert people to Christianity. The phrasing really bothers me, though, in that just because I do not view the world through the teachings of Christianity, doesn't mean to me that I'm dirty and need to be "cleaned" (or have my head cut off, which is what "cleaning" a fish means!). He didn't understand why it bothered me, because it's an idiom that he's used to, but the me it really seemed overly hostile to non-Christians.

I don't think it necessarily occurs to the people who write the signs that people who see them might feel bad about being referred to in that way.

03-30-2007, 11:54 AM	#1
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	. Attached Images __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

03-30-2007, 12:29 PM	#2
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	ouchy Attached Images __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-30-2007, 12:49 PM	#3
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	Did somebody fart? __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

03-30-2007, 01:31 PM	#4
Hime Extraordinary Machine Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Outside of Washington, DC Posts: 307	I get annoyed at church signs a lot. My suspicion is that the messages are written to appeal to the people who already go to the church, or make a reference to something said in a sermon, etc, and don't really take into account that other people see them too. I got really annoyed by one that said "Be ye fishers of men: you catch them, He'll clean them." My SO (who is a Christian) explained that Jesus told his disciples to be "fishers of men," meaning that they should convert people to Christianity. The phrasing really bothers me, though, in that just because I do not view the world through the teachings of Christianity, doesn't mean to me that I'm dirty and need to be "cleaned" (or have my head cut off, which is what "cleaning" a fish means!). He didn't understand why it bothered me, because it's an idiom that he's used to, but the me it really seemed overly hostile to non-Christians. I don't think it necessarily occurs to the people who write the signs that people who see them might feel bad about being referred to in that way.

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