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[duck_duck]

America not only needs to get rid of the guns but it needs to put a stop to it's culture of violence. Why is it in america violent crime is so rampant and out of control?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

America not only needs to get rid of the guns but it needs to put a stop to it's culture of violence. Why is it in america violent crime is so rampant and out of control?

Cool idea. So when are you going to advocate the elimination of the Penis so we can put an end to HIV/AIDS or the removal of all cars to stop drunk drivers. No greater act for the masses eh?

[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Cool idea. So when are you going to advocate the elimination of the Penis so we can put an end to HIV/AIDS or the removal of all cars to stop drunk drivers. No greater act for the masses eh?

I suppose you can do it your way which is nothing and pretend there is no problem.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

I suppose you can do it your way which is nothing and pretend there is no problem.

I really do believe that people should be held responsible for thier actions. Yes, you are correct. Or we could just go the way of some Nazi approach and confiscate all guns, that approach would still not work.

[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I really do believe that people should be held responsible for thier actions. Yes, you are correct. Or we could just go the way of some Nazi approach and confiscate all guns, that approach would still not work.

It works in many parts of the world. I come from a place where the average person can not run down to a gun shop and buy a bunch of guns yet the crime rate is low and the people are free.

[freshnesschronic]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

America not only needs to get rid of the guns but it needs to put a stop to it's culture of violence. Why is it in america violent crime is so rampant and out of control?

Wait a minute. Get rid of guns? Culture of violence?

In my opinion, those two statements are absolutely ridiculous, no offense. If we got rid of guns, what can we resort to for defense? Martial arts, or ICBMs? And culture of violence? What culture doesn't have violence deeply rooted into it's history.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

Wait a minute. Get rid of guns? Culture of violence?

In my opinion, those two statements are absolutely ridiculous, no offense. If we got rid of guns, what can we resort to for defense? Martial arts, or ICBMs? And culture of violence? What culture doesn't have violence deeply rooted into it's history.

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[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

Wait a minute. Get rid of guns? Culture of violence?

In my opinion, those two statements are absolutely ridiculous, no offense. If we got rid of guns, what can we resort to for defense? Martial arts, or ICBMs? And culture of violence? What culture doesn't have violence deeply rooted into it's history.

But it's rampant in america. You can't watch the news without reports of somebody being robbed at gunpoint or shot for their car etc.

[freshnesschronic]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

But it's rampant in america. You can't watch the news without reports of somebody being robbed at gunpoint or shot for their car etc.

That is full of bias and bullshit. I strongly disagree. It's getting to the point where I'm almost offended as an American. Where do you hail from that is so much better than the USA?

[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

That is full of bias and bullshit. I strongly disagree. It's getting to the point where I'm almost offended as an American. Where do you hail from that is so much better than the USA?

There is nothing biased about it at all. It's just reality. I'm from hong kong and when I moved to america I could see right away how bad the crime is. All one has to do is sit and watch the local and national news.

[freshnesschronic]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

There is nothing biased about it at all. It's just reality. I'm from hong kong and when I moved to america I could see right away how bad the crime is. All one has to do is sit and watch the local and national news.

You obviously don't know how American news works. These stories make networks. It's not like China where the government HIDES all their scandals and dirty laundered money. Not to mention communist gov't and how they "intervene" with people who don't believe in what they want. You want to talk about violence? How many police beatings happen A DAY in China, to civilians? I have mannnnnny Chinese friends. I know what happens there. They visit China so I get the stories. Maybe in your utopia of Hong Kong there is no violence (shyeah right, Triads anyone?) but here in America there is freedom of PRESS where stories are heard, especially the BAD ones that make networks get coverage. Please keep your American bashing to yourself before you know the whole deal with this country.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

You obviously don't know how American news works. These stories make networks. It's not like China where the government HIDES all their scandals and dirty laundered money.

You would be suprised on how much the US hides.

[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

You obviously don't know how American news works. These stories make networks. It's not like China where the government HIDES all their scandals and dirty laundered money. Not too mention communist gov't and how they "intervene" with people who don't believe in what they want. You want to talk about violence? How many police beatings happen A DAY in China? I have mannnnnny Chinese friends. I know what happens there. They visit China so I get the stories. Maybe in your utopia of Hong Kong there is no violence (shyeah right, Triads anyone?) but here in America there is freedom of PRESS where stories are heard, especially the BAD ones that make networks get coverage. Please keep your American bashing to yourself before you know the whole deal with this country.

I can't speak for mainland china because I have never lived there, I can only compare hong kong to america. In fact you can compare any major american city to hong kong sar and you will see the violence in the american city much more higher. And of course there is violence in hong kong, there is no such place on earth where people live that there is no violence. But the crime in hong kong, especially violent crime, is extremely low compared to america and hong kong is one of the freest places in the world to live. So tell me what is hong kong doing right and america doing wrong?

[jinx]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

But it's rampant in america. You can't watch the news without reports of somebody being robbed at gunpoint or shot for their car etc.

But you realize that US violent crime rates have been falling for your whole life, right?

[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by jinx

But you realize that US violent crime rates have been falling for your whole life, right?

So? It still doesn't change the fact that crime is rampant in america.