Abortion back on the top of the agenda

[Happy Monkey]

Why is this procedure considered worse than any other?

[glatt]

Because they look like people.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Why is this procedure considered worse than any other?

In one you get to suck out the bits a little at a time. In the other you get to scrape out the little blob and suck it all out at once.

[Bullitt]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Why is this procedure considered worse than any other?

From the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003 of the 108th Congress 1st Session:
(M) The vast majority of babies killed during partial-birth abortions are alive until the end of the procedure. It is a medical fact, however, that unborn infants at this stage can feel pain when subjected to painful stimuli and that their perception of this pain is even more intense than that of newborn infants and older children when subjected to the same stimuli. Thus, during a partial-birth abortion procedure, the child will fully experience the pain associated with piercing his or her skull and sucking out his or her brain.

[glatt]

See! They look like people.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Bullitt

It is a medical fact, however, that unborn infants at this stage can feel pain when subjected to painful stimuli and that their perception of this pain is even more intense than that of newborn infants and older children when subjected to the same stimuli.

That doesn't sound like a medical fact at all.

Thus, during a partial-birth abortion procedure, the child will fully experience the pain associated with piercing his or her skull and sucking out his or her brain.

That's true of all abortions, dependant upon the stage of pregnancy.

A partial birth abortion is an inherently dangerous procedure in terms of physical health to begin with. With all abortion, the later in pregnancy an abortion is performed, the more complicated the procedure and the greater the risk of injury to the woman.

OK. With all abortion.

In addition to associated emotion reactions, D&X carries the risk of injury to the woman, including heavy bleeding, blood clots, damage to the cervix or uterus, pelvic infection, and anesthesia-related complications.

Probably still true for all abortion, and a huge number of other medical procedures.

There is also a risk of incomplete abortion, meaning that the fetus is not dead when removed from the woman's body.

This one is probably more likely for IDX.

Possible long-term risks include difficulty becoming pregnant or carrying a future pregnancy to term.

And back to "true for all abortion".

The list of "differences" seems to be primarily about late-term vs early abortions. I think just about everybody agrees that if one is going to get an abortion, one should do it as early as possible (except for those who want to introduce roadblocks and delaying tactics until it's too late). But if one is going to have a late-term abortion, I don't see what's worse about this particular procedure. In fact, I heard a caller to C-SPAN who (along with his wife) chose IDX so they could say goodbye to the baby she couldn't carry.

[glatt]

Speaking of people. These are the people who created the law that doesn't take a woman's health into consideration, signed that law, and overruled two federal courts in order to keep the law on the books.

Which demographic group is missing from these pictures? I'll give the reader a hint, it's the same group who is being controlled by the law.

Think after signing this law and having a few laughs, all the men went into the back room to have a few cigars and tell sexist jokes?