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Old 04-22-2007, 07:04 PM   #16
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The occupation has now become an excuse. Most of the groups are not the same. The enemy is the same.
They created the monster nevertheless. Israel and the US does nothing to help the people of these countries so the people will do nothing to combat these groups. I have said it before, if we really want to fight this terrorism we will have to help out the people in these countries.

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Raping them of their resources! Ha. Ever hear of OPEC?
Ever heard of Operation Ajax? Yes, a lot of the problem is the governments of those countries but we are to blame too. We also have done nothing to help these people either.

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We are not responsible for 9/11, if you believe that you have been brainwashed by the leftist views of the world. Poor terrorists, maybe you think we should pay them some reparations for having the need to come over here and kill themselves in those big bad bird like symbols of Western greed.
Who are we? The American people aren't but the American government is partially responsible. It is cause and effect. If we do one thing, they will react in a certain way. I am not brainwashed because I can look at both sides to an issue, I have just picked my side on this issue.
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:09 PM   #17
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I have just picked my side on this issue.
Ok, I just think you understanding is a bit confused. Whatever.
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:15 PM   #18
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Ever heard of Operation Ajax?
Of course, but that is one small blip on the history of intervention of Western nations in third world countries, at the time, where we had global interests. Persia was but one small front at that time in history. It was not somehow the grand spark for the current hatred of Muslims against Western society. Hell the Arabs and Persian's hate each other. How would that one event explain all of the other problems or the desires of Wahhabism and its goal of expansionist thinking? It cannot.
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:19 PM   #19
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There are others like it.

Why do you like to try to force me to an extremist view when I don't have that?
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:28 PM   #20
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Why do you like to try to force me to an extremist view when I don't have that?
I don't have an extremist view either. I am not forcing you into anything.
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Old 04-23-2007, 11:48 AM   #21
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Al-Qaeda ‘planning big British attack’

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1687360.ece
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Old 04-23-2007, 04:24 PM   #22
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Merc, al-Qaeda are always planning something or another. It is up to the US, England and others to counter them, or eliminate the threat entirely in a way that doesn't create more terrorists in turn. I must say that Bush is the biggest recruiter of terrorists.
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Old 04-23-2007, 04:29 PM   #23
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The only way the americans would not recruit terrorists is to surrender and kill themselves.
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Old 04-23-2007, 04:33 PM   #24
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No, there are more effective ways, better than what America is doing and certainly better than what Russia is doing re Chechyans.
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Old 04-23-2007, 04:34 PM   #25
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Like what?
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Old 04-23-2007, 04:40 PM   #26
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Such as

1) not attacking another country, diluting resorces in the process, and in so doing creating a vacuum filled by the enemy.

2) Not attacking schools, then crying why the terrorists are attacking your schools in return.
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Old 04-23-2007, 04:42 PM   #27
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How many muslim nations and schools did america invade that caused the 9/11 attacks?
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Old 04-23-2007, 05:06 PM   #28
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Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, Egypt, Iraq Mk. I (actually that probably didnt piss them off a whole lot, they didn't like Saddam any more than we did)...

Osama used to be our friend against the Reds in Afghanistan. Then he asked us nicely if we could kinda pull out of some musilm holy land, like in saudi arabia.

We said "FUCK YOU COCKSUCKER!" and ignored him.
He got pissed.


I'm not saying he's right, but theres the motivation right there.
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Old 04-23-2007, 05:28 PM   #29
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When did the americans invade saudi arabia, pakistan and egypt?
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Old 04-23-2007, 05:36 PM   #30
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Sort through this. A timeline of US intervention in other countries since 1945.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Bl...ns_WBlumZ.html

Edit- This is at 1999 so it won't have post 9/11 interventions.

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