Revolting?

Spexxvet · 05-12-2007, 07:57 AM

It'll probably be the poor. Just like the French and Russian revolutions.

I think most revolutionary movements would not be accepted by about hald of all American. Just like the Watts and LA riots, those whose interests are not served by the revolution would view the combatants as outlaws. As an example, if the government outlaws guns, only the pro-gun contingent will revolt, and they would be viewed as outlaws by everyone else. Please let's not drift into another gun thread arguement.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-12-2007, 08:06 AM

Bullshit. Go back and read how many said they didn't own a gun but strongly supported gun ownership along with all the constitutional guarantees.
I don't own a horse anymore, but I'd be very pissed off if the government tried to outlaw horses.

Spexxvet · 05-12-2007, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Bullshit. Go back and read how many said they didn't own a gun but strongly supported gun ownership along with all the constitutional guarantees.
I don't own a horse anymore, but I'd be very pissed off if the government tried to outlaw horses.

You missed the point - it's a fucking example. How about this. Remember all the pro-immigration demonstrations last year? How did you feel about those? Ready to take up weapons to support that cause?

xoxoxoBruce · 05-12-2007, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

You missed the point - it's a fucking example. How about this. Remember all the pro-immigration demonstrations last year? How did you feel about those? Ready to take up weapons to support that cause?

No, you missed the fucking point.
The point is, you can't see there are people that will support causes that don't affect them just because they believe in freedom. People that aren't so selfish that they say, well, that's not my problem, it doesn't affect me.

No, I won't support illegal aliens, but some Americans will, even though they aren't aliens themselves.
I will support horse owners, even though I'm am not one.

bluecuracao · 05-12-2007, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

even though they aren't aliens themselves.

Just to let you know, the Martians are in full support.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-12-2007, 10:04 AM

I'm gonna snap your ass with a wet towel, lady.

Spexxvet · 05-12-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

...there are people that will support causes that don't affect them just because they believe in freedom. People that aren't so selfish that they say, well, that's not my problem, it doesn't affect me...

And there are people that won't. Thank you for proving my point.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-12-2007, 12:13 PM

Proving your point? Are you nuts? Your statement was;

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As an example, if the government outlaws guns, only the pro-gun contingent will revolt, and they would be viewed as outlaws by everyone else.

I said that is not so. There will be people who are not pro-gun but pro-freedom who will side with the rebels because the believe in freedom.
You can't even keep track of what your point is or you don't know how to express it. Either way, my statement was completely opposite the one you made.

Spexxvet · 05-13-2007, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Proving your point? Are you nuts? Your statement was;
I said that is not so. There will be people who are not pro-gun but pro-freedom who will side with the rebels because the believe in freedom.
You can't even keep track of what your point is or you don't know how to express it. Either way, my statement was completely opposite the one you made.

Ok, Bruce, I concede. People will be divided into

Agree, join revolt
Agree, sit out
Agree, fight against revolt
Disagree, join revolt
Disagree, sit out
Disagree, fight against revolt
Don't care, join revolt
Don't care, sit out
Don't care, fight against revolt

Did I miss anything?

jinx · 05-12-2007, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Please let's not drift into another gun thread arguement.

Drift? You started the thread with it!

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For the best reason of all for having guns... to defend against a tyrannical government and to overthrow it when it becomes necessary.

No matter how unlikely you consider an armed revolt to be - how could you possibly consider it so unlikely that it makes sense to disarm the populace? That's what I don't understand....

Spexxvet · 05-12-2007, 11:03 AM

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Drift? You started the thread with it!

Just because the quote had "gun" in it, doesn't mean it's about guns. Are you so obsessed that you made a leap like that?

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Originally Posted by jinx

No matter how unlikely you consider an armed revolt to be - how could you possibly consider it so unlikely that it makes sense to disarm the populace? That's what I don't understand....

Please cite where I've suggested disarming the populace.

jinx · 05-12-2007, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Just because the quote had "gun" in it, doesn't mean it's about guns. Are you so obsessed that you made a leap like that?
Please cite where I've suggested disarming the populace.

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Do you think there could or would be an armed revolt in America?

How do you have an armed revolt if you're not armed?

piercehawkeye45 · 05-12-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx

How do you have an armed revolt if you're not armed?

Bombs and illegal guns.

If you were to actually revolt, using legal guns besides rifles and shotguns won't get you very far.

Spexxvet · 05-13-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jinx

How do you have an armed revolt if you're not armed?

Ok, for Jinx, let's all agree that this revolution does not have to be a revolution with guns - wouldn't want anyone else to misconstrue the premise. This revolt can be peaceful, non-violent, or using rock, pointy sticks, or bananas. Now that we've clarified that, let's get on with the POINT of the discussion.

Spexxvet · 05-13-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jinx

How do you have an armed revolt if you're not armed?

BTW, that's a stretch if you're interpreting that to mean I suggested to "disarm the populace".

05-12-2007, 07:57 AM	#1
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	It'll probably be the poor. Just like the French and Russian revolutions. I think most revolutionary movements would not be accepted by about hald of all American. Just like the Watts and LA riots, those whose interests are not served by the revolution would view the combatants as outlaws. As an example, if the government outlaws guns, only the pro-gun contingent will revolt, and they would be viewed as outlaws by everyone else. Please let's not drift into another gun thread arguement. __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

05-12-2007, 08:06 AM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Bullshit. Go back and read how many said they didn't own a gun but strongly supported gun ownership along with all the constitutional guarantees. I don't own a horse anymore, but I'd be very pissed off if the government tried to outlaw horses. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-12-2007, 10:04 AM	#6
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I'm gonna snap your ass with a wet towel, lady. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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