Do You Own a Gun?

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Ibram

A gun is not purchased to kill someone. (unless, of course, it is, in the case of a criminal or whatever... but thats another deal altogether)
A gun IS purchased expressly to defend yourself with, up to and including using it to kill.

This is a semantics issue, I think.

Exactly. If someone buys a gun to defend themselves, they intend to use lethal force to defend themselves. If the circumstances arise, they intend to kill someone. They may even hope that they never have to, but just owning a gun indicates their intent.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Exactly. If someone buys a gun to defend themselves, they intend to use lethal force to defend themselves. If the circumstances arise, they intend to kill someone. They may even hope that they never have to, but just owning a gun indicates their intent.

That's bullshit. You're assuming someone that buys a gun, strictly for self defense, is willing to kill someone. You have no way of knowing what their intentions are, how far they are willing to take a confrontation, whether they will even load that gun.
You're talking bullshit because, you just don't know and claiming you do is a lie.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Exactly. If someone buys a gun to defend themselves, they intend to use lethal force to defend themselves. If the circumstances arise, they intend to kill someone. They may even hope that they never have to, but just owning a gun indicates their intent.

I would agree with that. I would kill the first of you fucks who tried to rob me or my family or any other scumbag who came through the door. And thank God our state now has a law the lets me shoot your ass if you try to steal my car as well.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Exactly. If someone buys a gun to defend themselves, they intend to use lethal force to defend themselves. If the circumstances arise, they intend to kill someone. They may even hope that they never have to, but just owning a gun indicates their intent.

May hope? Hell, they do. I've been up against that kind of situation once, and it feels awful. But it doesn't feel awfuller than being assaulted or murdered, now does it? But it's no wonder people throw up afterwards.

If owning indicates anything, it indicates preparation, and a will to prevail regardless of the level of violence an attacker may bring. This is simply the martial-arts self-defense viewpoint, and the resisting of evil so that evil simply can no longer act is a moral action.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Exactly. If someone buys a gun to defend themselves, they intend to use lethal force to defend themselves. If the circumstances arise, they intend to kill someone. They may even hope that they never have to, but just owning a gun indicates their intent.

If someone buys a gun to defend themselves, they hope to have the force needed to do it. This does NOT mean they are buying a gun to kill people. In nearly all cases, merely showing the attacker a weapon is enough of a deterrent to get them to leave. Owning a gun does not indicate an intent to kill and only an idiot would claim such.