Elite Troops Get Expanded Role on Intelligence

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Of course not everyone like the new system in Venezuela but these past events had nothing to do with free speech, just against the government.

MCTV committed treason and that is why Hugo declined to renew their contract. During the 2002 attempted takeover MCTV told Venezuelans to "go out and fight" and lied about Chavez stepping down. That is treason and a TV station in America would never get a renewed contract if they did that against Bush or any other president.


It is suppose to do that and will do that for a while but once it starts building up steam it starts causing all the problems. Monopolies and imperialism are not the freedom that everyone wants, but only to the ones in power.

Everyone serves someone in any organization. Call it what you want, dress it up as you like. Someone is going to be in charge and making the rules. I prefer our current system. I can use some improvements, certainly, but it beats all the others out there hands down.

BTW, I bet any TV station in the US could pretty much say anything they wanted against Bush and their ratings would more likely than not go up. The US Government has never, to limited understanding, shut down a previous licensed TV or Radio Station. They have been fined, but not shut down because of something they broadcast. Hell, think of War of the Worlds, they didn't even shut them down after all the chaos they caused.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Shut Down, hell they are lucky they weren't all shot and the station blown up, at the time.

[tw]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

The US Government has never, to limited understanding, shut down a previous licensed TV or Radio Station. They have been fined, but not shut down because of something they broadcast.

Instead they have wacko extremists manipulate stations for them. Ted Koppel simply devoted one Nightline to honor all American dead from "Mission Accomplished". Wacko extremists such as Sinclair Broadcasting would not air that episode and joined a campaign for force ABC to limit programming that extremists did not like. Eventually rules even included as least two conservatives for each liberal guest.

ABC was plummeted with mail condemning a new TV show because its first episode was so disliked (All in the Family? no). Problem was: that show had not even aired. Extremists began attacking it only because they were told to. The show: Three's Company. Clearly it was evil only because wacko extremists feared we all might sin.

The Smothers Brothers simply told a truth about Vietnam. That show eventually aired in limited markets. Nothing extremist in it. It simply made an accurate point about government lies and Nam. But again, wackos got ignorant and extremists supporters to impose their morality on all others. Same wackos advocated deaths of millions of Vietnamese and called that 'patriotic American'. Same mentalities want same in Iraq.

Government need not impose its will when it has wacko extremists to do so - encouraged by government mouthpieces such as Rush Limbaugh.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by tw

Instead they have wacko extremists manipulate stations for them.

You are right. MoveOn.Org has a huge following of leftists in the US and TV and Radio loves to spew their crap.

[tw]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You are right. MoveOn.Org has a huge following of leftists in the US and TV and Radio loves to spew their crap.

MoveOn.org is irrelevant. When it comes to spewing crap, the Rush Limbaughs get their talking points faxed daily from a White House with a long history of lying. Nothing comes close to their original sin ('Thouth shalt not lie') like wacko extremists who spew for the White House. When TheMercenary used the word 'spew', what he really means is that a liar is his love - Geroge Jr. He accuses others of spewing so that we will not notice that spewing only comes from wacko liars. Accuse someone else so that we don't see the real criminal.

Meanwhile, Chavez would be completely irrelevant and totally ignored except for one thing: wacko extremist and mental midget George Jr (and people like TheMercenary) blindly believe those lies.

America that was once popular with all Latin American nations has now become diminished - so little respected - in Brazil, Venezuela, Ecuador, Argentina, etc. No wonder Clinton could even walk the streets of Vietnam and be welcome, whereas George Jr feared to even get out of black glass limos. Even his quick trip to Latin America meant massive security from people who hate liars. It says much about people that TheMercenary spews for.

Larry Birns, director of the Washington-based Council on Hemispheric Affairs, described the change, "In more than 40 years of monitoring, I have never seen the U.S. so isolated in Latin America and Cuba so not isolated."

Because of George Jr wackoism, many Latin American nations are, for the first time, restoring relations with Castro's Cuba. Uruguay - once one of the closest pro-western allies in Latin America and with a stable democracy is the latest to establish warm relations with Cuba - complete with a visit from their Navy. It says reams about the wacko extremism of George Jr who even speaks Spanish and still insults their pride.

Chavez would have been completely irrelevant if America had a president with any intelligence and a Vice President who did not go around shooting things such as friends and innocent civilians in other nations. But that means TheMercenary must stop using the 'spew' word and accept reality. Thanks to George Jr, even Castro is now becoming popular.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by tw

MoveOn.org is irrelevant. When it comes to spewing crap, the Rush Limbaughs get their talking points faxed daily from a White House with a long history of lying.

Really??? based on what facts? You are the Cellar's spokes person for MoveOn.Org. George? is that you?

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

BTW, I bet any TV station in the US could pretty much say anything they wanted against Bush and their ratings would more likely than not go up. The US Government has never, to limited understanding, shut down a previous licensed TV or Radio Station. They have been fined, but not shut down because of something they broadcast. Hell, think of War of the Worlds, they didn't even shut them down after all the chaos they caused.

Even overthrow the government?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Even overthrow the government?

That, my friend, is repeating the spin of the Chavez government. You really believe them?

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

That, my friend, is repeating the spin of the Chavez government. You really believe them?

Yes, because I have heard it from multiple sources.

All your information comes from right-winged sites so how does that help you cause

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/articles.php?artno=2042

This is slightly pro-Chavez but it is more un-biased than anything else I have read.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Yes, because I have heard it from multiple sources.

All your information comes from right-winged sites so how does that help you cause

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/articles.php?artno=2042

This is slightly pro-Chavez but it is more un-biased than anything else I have read.

None of my information comes from "right-winged" sites, so it neither contributes nor detracts from any cause, if I had one.

"Slightly pro-Chavez"... imagine that for truth in reporting.

[richlevy]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

None of my information comes from "right-winged" sites

Translation: I am so far on the fringe there's noone left on my right.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by richlevy

Translation: I am so far on the fringe there's noone left on my right.

Depends on the issue.