Terror Plot 'One Of The Most Chilling Imaginable'

[Beestie]

Point taken.

My hostility was directed primarily at the propaganda-level idea that the Patriot Act saved us yet again.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Yeah, I'll buy that. Our operatives have been out there doing their thing since forever. Whether the Patriot Act helped them in any significant way is dubious.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Beestie

Point taken.

My hostility was directed primarily at the propaganda-level idea that the Patriot Act saved us yet again.

It was not meant to be a "propaganda-level idea", it was a simple comment that I bet elements of the Act assisted us in catching these would be terrorists. Both you and the "teen" responded in similar manner, with emotional outburst due to your hatred of the Act and all things "Bush".

[tw]

I was wondering which of The Cellar's wacko extremists would hype this NYC bombing plot. Just like a plot to bring down Chicago's Sears Tower - they had no explosive, they had no technical knowledge, then had no ability, but they just talked alot.

Let's see. They were going to bomb a 40 mile pipeline. Therefore wackos among us know this would be a fire in 40 miles of towns and cities. Hell. One of those Buckeye Partner pipelines are near me. Therefore I too can destroy America by simply causing the entire pipeline to explode end to end.

And then we deal with reality. The most destructive thing I might do is steal some petroleum. TheMercenary cannot even put that mythical attack into perspective.

Meanwhile TheMercenary forgets that conventional law enforcement before 11 September was more than sufficient to stop terrorist attacks that included a possible attack on New Years Eve Time Square, the Radisson Hotel in Jordan, tourists in Egypt, and LAX in California. Why? Because we once had an intelligent president.

Why do we need Patriot Acts? Because wacko extremists in the White House are so incompetent as to even make 11 September possible – and then blame it on Saddam.

Because he promotes hate using his political agenda, TheMercenary even denies George Jr administration stifled investigations that could have stopped 11 September. FBI agents in AZ, MN, IL, and NY were stopped from investigating what we know call 11 September ... by the George Jr administration. We also know they stifled and drove from government service this nation's number one anti-terrorist investigator. John O'Neill died where he knew attacks would be coming - WTC.

TheMercenary must deny this reality to promote his wacko political agenda – a fear of fools who could only talk about terrorism. Why is their talk hyped as if the world is going to end? Look at the George Jr popularity polls. They can no long create Orange Alerts to increase popularity. All those Orange alerts were also based in myths.

Why did John O'Neill take a job where he knew attacks were coming? That's irrelevant. Why did an extremist administration who insisted we were still in a Cold War then stifle John O'Neills investigations? Why do wackos like TheMercenary deny George Jr's administration stifled all those investigations - then must to subvert freedom to 'fight terror’?

When do we go after bin Laden? As long as bin Laden runs free, then wackos like TheMercenary can hype fear from simple fools who make the Keystone Cops look competent.

Let's see. Some pizza shop workers and friends talk about attacking Fort Dix. Suddenly the world was on the verge of ending? Or these extremist had the same competence as Richard Reed who could not give himself a hot foot.

Fortunately for terrorists, we have George Jr as a leader and TheMercenary promoting for that mental midget. Those attacks on JFK did not even have the competence of Richard Reed. But those among us who cannot put the world into perspective now see Al Qaeda hiding everywhere. Who promotes such ridiculous fears? TheMercenary - another extremist.

Extremists need extremists. When did TheMercenary ever call for the capture of bin Laden? He never did. As long as bin Laden runs free, then TheMercenary's political agenda can be promoted. No wonder George Jr suspended Alec Station. Alec Station had only one purpose - get bin Laden. But extremists need extremists to promote their political agendas. Therefore George Jr had that operation terminated.

Notice TheMercenary does not complain. As long as bin Laden runs free, then TheMercenary can promote his political agenda. Notice that TheMercenary does not complain when Alec Station was disbanded. TheMercenary need extremists like bin Laden and fools who would bomb the Sear Tower or attack Ft Dix. It justifies the fear that TheMercenary promotes.

Only a wacko extremist believes those JFK ‘attackers’ were anything but one step above fools. Only wacko extremists would hype those JFK ‘attackers’ to promote fear. Only wacko extremists also blames Saddam for 11 September. Wacko extremists such as George Jr and TheMercenary need bin Laden running free. No wonder 10th Mountain was never permitted to go after bin Laden.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by tw

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Pssst... tw. It ain't about me. It is about attempts to thwart attacks on the US. They did that. Good plans or bad plans.

[Ibby]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

It was not meant to be a "propaganda-level idea", it was a simple comment that I bet elements of the Act assisted us in catching these would be terrorists. Both you and the "teen" responded in similar manner, with emotional outburst due to your hatred of the Act and all things "Bush".

I fail to see any irrelevant emotion in my reply. It's a bunch of crazies sitting around in a basement saying "man... I wish we had like, bombs or something, and like, a way to blow up those tanks, man!" The plot was doomed from the start. The tanks could not possibly create a chain reaction, and they really probably couldnt even blow one tank, anyway.

Fuel tanks have exploded before, all on their own. It's not fun, but its not "One of the most chilling [plots] imaginable". The rest really is just overhyped fearmongering idiotic bullshit.

[Beestie]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Both you and the "teen" responded in similar manner, with emotional outburst due to your hatred of the Act and all things "Bush".

Bullshit. Ibram and I drew our conclusions from the New York Times article that you linked. I referenced the Patriot Act because you brought it up in your initial post which is itself interesting since it had nothing whatsoever to do with this story.

You are right about my attitude about the Patriot Act. But I don't hate Bush. He's giving us his best effort. Unfortunately for us, however, his best effort sucks.