Proclaiming Liberalism, and What It Now Means

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I agree, we need to pull out of the Middle-East completely, all aid, all military, EVERYTHING... just let em' go to hell.

As much as I would love to disagree with this, it is for the best. Iraq is in the middle of a civil war right and by us staying there, we are only going to extend it and could possibly build tensions which will make it even worse than it is now. Yes, it could easily lead to genocide but what are we going to do to stop it?

I am against isolationism but there is a time when you need to intervene in other countries' affairs and a time when you don't. More times then most the latter is the best in the end.

The only real times I see when military action helps is:

1. When both sides want peace and need help keeping it (Palestine/Israel is getting closer to this….hopefully)
2. When it is a slaughter (Darfur/rest of Africa)

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

The only real times I see when military action helps is:

1. When both sides want peace and need help keeping it (Palestine/Israel is getting closer to this….hopefully)
2. When it is a slaughter (Darfur/rest of Africa)

And as an ex-military person I can tell you that the minority of troops support these mis-adventures. We made that mistake in Somalia. We are not the worlds policeman. We don't want to be in Iraq, but we are, not much we can do to change that as soldiers. Being in the middle of a civil war is the last place we want to be and both of your examples are extremes of that. Screw Darfur and screw the Israeli-palestinians conflict.