Bridge Collapse

[elSicomoro]

tw has been the way he is as long as I've been here--6 years and change.

I appreciate many of his points, and sometimes I even get a chuckle out of him. But he (along with a few other people on here) try too hard, IMO, to pull emotion out of their posts. And that is impossible...we are emotional people as a whole. So when these folks try to be unemotional, they come across as callous and asinine...and it understandably throws people for a loop.

Of course, it doesn't help that none of us have voices to rely on.

In the end, post how you want...just be aware of how you might come across. The Cellar is too decent of a place to be disrespectful to each other.

[xoxoxoBruce]

tw's a dick... tw's condecending... tw's arrogant... which is unfortunate because quite often tw's right. As grating as he can be, try to understand what he writes, which often takes a bit of interpretation, I know... then tell him to fuck off.

In 2005, the federal government rated the Minnesota bridge as "structurally deficient," a status that does not require that a bridge be closed or replaced.

"We know that the bridge was inspected in 2005 and 2006 by state inspectors, and while there was some stress and surface concerns noted, they didn't identify a need for the bridge to be replaced," said Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty.

More than 73,000 bridges were rated as "structurally deficient" in 2006, while an additional 80,000 were considered "functionally obsolete," according to federal transportation statistics.

The status does not mean a bridge is unsafe to use, Transportation Secretary Peters said at a news conference in Minneapolis just before noon. Peters also said that the federal government would immediately offer $5 million to the recovery effort and would supplant those funds as necessary.

Dan Dorgan, the director of bridges for the Minnesota Department of Transportation, laid out some of the structure's history that earned the bridge its "structurally deficient" status, citing reports over the last 20 years that had found bearing and corrosion problems, and fatigue cracks that were repaired in the early 1990s. Despite the federal designation, which a federal highway transportation official described as "programmatic," the bridge was still deemed fit for travel, Dorgan said.

One thing you can be sure of, Griff's trillion dollars could have rebuilt a lot of aging shit.

"A bridge in America shouldn't just fall down," Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar said at the news conference. She added that the collapse is a reminder that the nation's infrastructure needs to become a funding priority.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said the Minnesota bridge tragedy is a wake-up call on America's deteriorating infrastructure. "Since 9/11, we have taken our eye off the ball," said Reid, suggesting that infrastructure spending has taken a back seat to spending on the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Of course "top management" is making excuses already.

White House Press Secretary Tony Snow said this morning that while the deficiency status may not mean a bridge needs to be replaced, it is up to an individual state to deal with aging infrastructure.

"This doesn't mean there was a risk of failure, but if an inspection report identifies deficiencies, the state is responsible for taking corrective actions," Snow said.

Personally, I suspect the automatic deicing system they installed a few years ago. If, as I suspect, it uses that liquid salt crap they are squirting on the interstates now, it probably ate the rebar inside the concrete. We won't know for a year, if ever.

[yesman065]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

tw's a dick... tw's condecending... tw's arrogant... which is unfortunate because quite often tw's right. As grating as he can be, try to understand what he writes, which often takes a bit of interpretation, I know... then tell him to fuck off.

As usual Bruce you are right - more often than you may realize. You also create a persona of sorts, an image of a human comes to mind as I read what you post. With tw's posts my eyes roll up into my head, my brain hurts and then I virtually blackout from the realization that I have just been attacked by a borg
I too, respect him because he has valid points, but his utter lack of emotion his "assimilate or be terminated" arrogance is so grating that it makes it very difficult to get through all his bullshit. It becomes a chore to find that little nugget of reason, or his point that is in there somewhere wading amidst a vat of _______.

[tw]

Originally Posted by ValleyGirl

With tw's posts my eyes roll up into my head, my brain hurts and then I virtually blackout from the realization that I have just been attacked by a borg

But you never were attacked. You cannot even cite a post where you were attacked. However the topic is an I-35W bridge. Instead, every Yesman065 post is to attack tw.

Yesman065 - you could not even see facts in this post.

First, as I understand it, an identical bridge sits adjacent. Is it also failing? When was an emergency inspection conducted - and by whom?
Second, this bridge was jammed with bumper to bumper traffic - mostly cars. That means a static load - not a 'heavier' dynamic load - composed of even lighter vehicles. ...
Third, Federal inspectors reported serious structural problems in 2005.

Instead Yesman065 goes into an emotional 'melt down' about how HE was hurt. Curious. Yesman065 was never insulted. But he repeatedly posts insults at tw. Funny. Just like a valley girl whose who world revolves around her, so does Yesman065 post.

Funny. ValleyGirl repeatedly posts insults, and then insists only he was insulted. Meanwhile, he could not even bother to post a single useful fact about the bridge. Only imporant were his his emotions concerning that bridge. Valley girl. Big dic is reseved for men who have one. Valley girls first and foremost worry about vanity. His head hurts. That is more important than dead people on future bridges.

[warch]

Incest. Still, ya gotta feel for Delores.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Personally, I suspect the automatic deicing system they installed a few years ago. If, as I suspect, it uses that liquid salt crap they are squirting on the interstates now, it probably ate the rebar inside the concrete. We won't know for a year, if ever.