Come and Get it! Free Healt Care for All!

[mitheral]

Originally Posted by orthodoc

Can't say that for Canadians. Even the recent birth of identical quadruplets to a woman from Calgary took place not in the land of 'free, universal' health care, but in Montana. The woman and her husband had to drive 325 miles and cross the border for her delivery. Why? Hospitals in Calgary were 'at full capacity'. The two ways to manage socialized health care are to tax more, and to restrict access to care. Canada does both.

A) this is an extreme example of a rare case.

B) How many Americans had their employer provided healthcare rates go down or coverage increase at the same price in the last few years? Canadians don't have to worry about HMOs or whether the closest/best hospital is in their companies network. Or losing coverage at the same time as they lose there job and ever after having a non covered existing condition. And of course 16% of our population doesn't have no healthcare coverage at all.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by mitheral

B) How many Americans had their employer provided healthcare rates go down or coverage increase at the same price in the last few years? Canadians don't have to worry about HMOs or whether the closest/best hospital is in their companies network. Or losing coverage at the same time as they lose there job and ever after having a non covered existing condition. And of course 16% of our population doesn't have no healthcare coverage at all.

Well if I need a knee replacement or hip replacement how long would I have to wait? How about 5 to 11 months?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3749801.stm

What if I was diagnosed with lung cancer? How long would I have to wait for treatment? How about 44 days?
http://www.cardiothoracicsurgery.org/content/2/1/5