"Why do Palestinians hate us?"

[piercehawkeye45]

Of course a Zionist will romanaticize Israel's history.

The State of Israel was created in a peaceful and legal process by the United Nations. It was not created out of Palestinian lands. It was created out of the Ottoman Empire, ruled for four hundred years by the Turks who lost it when they were defeated in World War I. There were no “Palestinian” lands at the time because there were no people claiming to be Palestinians. There were Arabs who lived in the region of Palestine who considered themselves Syrians.

This is the biggest load of propaganda shit I have ever read. He completely avoids that fact that people were living there and Israel forced them to leave. The people that were living in Palestine were not misplaced Syrians, they have been living in that area for ten thousand years so no matter what they called themselves, they still were living there and Israel took away their homes.

And define a peaceful process. I wouldn't consider the Lehi peaceful. Why didn't the UN and Israel listen to the refusal by both Palestinians and the surrounding Arab states?

The Arab refugees were roughly 725,000 people who fled because of the war that the Arab states – not the Palestinian Arabs -- started.

If this is true, why were Palestinians leaving a year BEFORE the war happened. And, there was civil war caused by the Palestinians before the war from the neighboring states so don't pull it was the surrounding Arabs states doing something that the Palestinians didn't want shit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Pa...7_-_March_1948

Yes, the war was started by the Arabs states and not Israel but that doesn't mean anything. The Arab states repeatably denied Israel's right to exist and they their intentions were obviously known before Israel was established. It is like British telling Germany that if they attacked annexed France, Britain would declare war on Germany and then Germany annexes France and goes crying that Britain was the instigator of the whole war. The whole conflict could have been avoided if Israel was not placed in Palestine.

Nascent Israel begged for peace and offered friendship and cooperation to its neighbors.

This is the biggest load of shit I've ever seen. If they wanted peace they shouldn't have gone there in the first place. The US can not ask the insurgents to stop attacking them since the US is an occupying force. Israel is an occupying force and should not have been there to begin with.

Had there been no Arab aggression, no war, and no invasion by Arab armies whose intent was overtly genocidal, not only would there have been no Arab refugees, but there would have been a state of Palestine in the West Bank and Gaza since 1948.

Once again, why were Palestinians leaving one year BEFORE the war? Oh, so if Arabs didn't start the war then Israel wouldn't have illegally occupied the West Bank and Gaza too. That makes it sound like the Arabs forced Israel to take those things...

In the war, Israel acquired additional land. In the absence of a peace treaty between belligerents, the law of nations allows the annexation of an aggressor’s land after a conflict – although the land in question belonged to the Turks and then the World War I victors. Israel actually offered to return land it had acquired while defending itself against the Arab aggression in exchange for a formal peace. It made this offer during the Rhodes Armistice talks and Lausanne conference in 1949. The Arab rulers refused the land because they wanted to maintain a state of war in order to destroy the Jewish state. Had Israel’s offer been accepted, there could have been prompt and just resolution to all the problems that have afflicted the region since. The only problem that wouldn’t have been resolved to the satisfaction of the Arabs was their desire to obliterate the state of Israel.

After their victory, Israel passed a law that allowed Arab refugees to re-settle in Israel provided they would sign a form in which they renounced violence, swore allegiance to the state of Israel, and became peaceful productive citizens. During the decades of this law’s tenure, more than 150,000 Arab refugees have taken advantage of it to resume productive lives in Israel. Jews do not have a similar option to become citizens of Arab states from which they are banned.

All of this can be explained by Israel should not have been there in the first place. If I make the first indirect move and then try to make peace after the other guys retaliate I can look like the good guy as well.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Of course a Zionist will romanaticize Israel's history.

Romanticize....romance.
Romance.....love.
Love.....sex.
Sex....somebody's getting fucked.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Of course a Zionist will romanaticize Israel's history.

An interesting bit of history you may be interested in, deals with one way that the middle east maps look the way they do and who influenced them. There is a bit in there about Israel as well.:

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200706/woman-iraq