Rekindling

[Happy Monkey]

I mainly see similarities; that was the primary distinction.

1) person A makes off-color joke
2) subject protests that it was over the line
3) person A doesn't take it seriously
4) subject insists that they are serious
5) a) Person A deletes the post
or
5) b) Person A makes fun of subject for being a whiner

I don't think that either case actually was over the line, but as they were dealing with other people's families, I can see that the other people have different lines. And while, if I had been person A in either case, I may not have apologized and/or deleted the initial post, I wouldn't have followed it up with more.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

I mainly see similarities; that was the primary distinction.

1) person A makes off-color joke
2) subject protests that it was over the line
3) person A doesn't take it seriously
4) subject insists that they are serious
5) a) Person A deletes the post
or
5) b) Person A makes fun of subject for being a whiner

I don't think that either case actually was over the line, but as they were dealing with other people's families, I can see that the other people have different lines. And while, if I had been person A in either case, I may not have apologized and/or deleted the initial post, I wouldn't have followed it up with more.

yes, these are similarities. to a point. and i hope that it isnt all you see here. the distinction?

well, first let me say that if the joke is on me i can take it. i've put a pic of myself up here in a mr incredible costume that you could dedicate a whole thread to. the pic monster put up was of my son holding his fingers in an inch apart position and it said 'my dad's weenie is this big'. that's funny...and it actually occured to me that someone could do that.....i just didnt think anyone would. see, the joke is more on him than it is on me, since it's his picture....and if it happened because i put his pic up here....?

he's 9. and, well, that's a bit different than someone saying 'yer mamma' and not falling for the drama, don't you think? I mean....those pics circulate. It could have come around some time years from now or something. the sexual aspect of it was what I thought bothered me at first. but I realized later that it was more of a protective father thing.

I started to tell monster that on gabbly one night, but decided to just let it drop. And I never asked her for an apology, did I? any way...

if I honestly felt like jeb was telling the truth about half of that, I'd man up and apologize. I trust my gut, though. The people that are breaking my balls here are those that have resentment toward me for things I've said to them. I get that. It's only natural. You, however? I'm a little troubled that you look to take this angle. I've always respected your intellect and honest demeanor. Does your gut tell you that I'm a bad guy? Do you see malice in my heart?

[HungLikeJesus]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

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...The people that are breaking my balls here are those that have resentment toward me for things I've said to them. I get that. It's only natural. You, however? I'm a little troubled that you look to take this angle. I've always respected your intellect and honest demeanor. Does your gut tell you that I'm a bad guy? Do you see malice in my heart?

lj - from an outsider's perspective, I don't see HM's post as an attack or even taking sides, just a logical analysis of the two situations. Maybe I need to re-read the posts.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

lj - from an outsider's perspective, I don't see HM's post as an attack or even taking sides, just a logical analysis of the two situations. Maybe I need to re-read the posts.

oh, I don't think it's an attack. I just wonder at the perspective.

I know HM to be a very subtle and thoughtful sort. when I asked if he saw no distinction between me saying things to a troll and someone doing what they did to a picture of my kid, it seemed like he was intentionally being obtuse about it. my perception. so, it makes me wonder why. if you dislike someone, you are more likely to see the negatives in them, right? I dont think this is the first time this has come up... I guess HM is not a fan of my schtick. meh?

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

if I honestly felt like jeb was telling the truth about half of that, I'd man up and apologize. I trust my gut, though. The people that are breaking my balls here are those that have resentment toward me for things I've said to them. I get that. It's only natural. You, however? I'm a little troubled that you look to take this angle. I've always respected your intellect and honest demeanor. Does your gut tell you that I'm a bad guy? Do you see malice in my heart?

I don't think you're a bad guy, but I'm not a fan of your occasional crusades against random posters. If Jeboduuza is trolling, you're feeding him; if not, you're being hurtful.