US Military Treatment Of Atheists

Originally Posted by SamIam

I presume the briefing mentioned in the quote above was a required one. As a result, everyone had to sit through the chaplain's trite little invocation. This is annoying if one is an atheist, but not the end of the world. The military does not force religious service attendence upon its members. If one is going to go on some crusade against the armed forces, I can think of at least a 100 better causes, rather than whether some idiot wants to make a blanket pronouncement on people's responses when facing death.

I've always heard that most people call for their Mommy, for what its worth.

I would love to hear any stories of an atheist stating that they would not attend a meeting with Chaplains, which are officers (a travesty).
Hilarity would ensure, I'm sure.
I FULLY support our troops, that is why I am against this breech of the separation of church and state and forced intrusion of their personal worship on their behalf.
There are so many things one can do than fight for the rights of our soldiers in these times?
Please, enlighten me.

[SamIam]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

There are so many things one can do than fight for the rights of our soldiers in these times?
Please, enlighten me.

Couple of examples:

The treatment a soldier receives when s/he is diagnosed with PTSD. An unconscionable number are treated as cowards or traitors, broken down in rank, and given dishonorable discharges. This means no help from the V.A., either.

Not that help from the V.A. is all that great. There are endless examples of wounded and/or disabled soldiers getting sub-standard care from the VA and over-burdened military hospitals.

Soldiers in the field in Iraq and Afganistan often have inadequate supplies and armoured protection, although I hear that's gotten somewhat better.

Etc. etc., etc.

Glad to hear that you love Christians, BTW.

Originally Posted by SamIam

Couple of examples:

The treatment a soldier receives when s/he is diagnosed with PTSD. An unconscionable number are treated as cowards or traitors, broken down in rank, and given dishonorable discharges. This means no help from the V.A., either.

Not that help from the V.A. is all that great. There are endless examples of wounded and/or disabled soldiers getting sub-standard care from the VA and over-burdened military hospitals.

Soldiers in the field in Iraq and Afganistan often have inadequate supplies and armoured protection, although I hear that's gotten somewhat better.

Etc. etc., etc.

Glad to hear that you love Christians, BTW.

I am married to one, my closest friend, many of my other friends are and many in my family are you fucking simpleton.
They all know how I feel and what I do to fight what "The Church" does and support me because they know that they hypocrisy harms the religion far more than anything else.

If not, then they aren't the subject of the complaint.

Precisely, you don't say homosexuality is a sin, don't use contraception if you need it, breech church and state, threaten kids with hell or use to bible to justify hitting them or push your religion on others... I can give a fuck what you believe.
We ALL believe things that are wrong, everyone.

[SamIam]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I am married to one, my closest friend, many of my other friends are and many in my family are you fucking simpleton.
They all know how I feel and what I do to fight what "The Church" does and support me because they know that they hypocrisy harms the religion far more than anything else.

Punctuation would be a nice addition to your diatribes. It took me 30 seconds to decipher your first sentence, you simpleton.

Your argument sounds suspiciously like the old bromide, "some of my best friends are - (insert group of your choice - Afro-American, gays, homeless, lawyers, etc., etc.)."

I can't remember who said it - Jung, maybe? "Be careful whom you hate, for those are the ones you will most come to resemble."