Stupid Traffic Question

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by monster

then the sign must refer to the bend

There is no sign, though.

The traffic light facing southbound traffic makes it even more confusing: the red light is a standard light, but when it turns green it shows an arrow for both lanes.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by Kitsune

There is no sign, though.

The traffic light facing southbound traffic makes it even more confusing: the red light is a standard light, but when it turns green it shows an arrow for both lanes.

Did you really mean southbound? The silver car will see what you just described?

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by glatt

Did you really mean southbound? The silver car will see what you just described?

Yeah. I'll try to get a photograph of it, tonight.

The number of people who continue on red is about 50%. This results in a lot of angry, impatient drivers.

Originally Posted by barefoot serpent

What is that dark object at the outer apex of the turn?

Looks like a vehicle that was in the southbound turn lane heading east.

[monster]

Originally Posted by Kitsune

The number of people who continue on red is about 50%. This results in a lot of angry, impatient drivers.
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Which drivers are getting angry? Ones behind the 50% who won't go on red? Or ones trying to turn left from the other road but prevented by those continuing on red?

[monster]

Originally Posted by Kitsune

There is no sign, though.

The traffic light facing southbound traffic makes it even more confusing: the red light is a standard light, but when it turns green it shows an arrow for both lanes.

oh sorry, I misread. Then yes, both lanes. but they have to stop first. and give way to other traffic. and it's not compulsory to go.

[glatt]

The real question is if it's a curve or a corner. If it's a corner, then both lanes can make the turn on red after stopping. If it's a curve, then neither lane can make the "turn" because there is no "turn" to make. They are continuing straight on the same road, which happens to curve.

I think it's a curve because there are no turn arrows painted on the pavement in those two lanes. A lack of arrows means those lanes are lanes that go straight through the intersection. The road has the same name on both sides of the intersection, so it's the same road, and you are not "turning" from one road to another you are simply continuing through the intersection on the same road. There is also no sharp corner.

If the light changes from red to two green arrows pointing right, then that is confusing, because right pointing arrows indicate a turn, not a curve.