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Old 10-28-2007, 12:37 PM   #1
Perry Winkle
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My phrasing wasn't the best. I wasn't trying to imply any universality in the mechanics of my examples. That's kind of why we call them examples. They are anecdotes, thought experiments, etc. I meant my examples to be read as loose analogies, not as a strict exemplar.

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To many false assumptions. This is the list of false assumptions:
1. You let these unlicensed drivers operate your equipment and they have accidents that affect your bottom line of profit. There is no evidence to support that notion, or that there is a rash of such situations that this is the norm.
2. If these people could be licensed then any accident is covered by insurance, and your income goes up because you aren't losing so much money to equipment replacement Part of the reason this is false is contained in #1. There is no evidence to support the notion that by giving a license to undocumented workers is going to ensure that employers are going to suddenly cover them for insurance and let them drive more. There is no evidence to support the notion that employers are losing money due to undocumented workers wrecking equipment or destroying any equipment that would need to be replaced and that such actions are costing employers huge amounts of money.
Actually, that's one "false" assumption, i.e., I assumed that if you employ certified people then your insurance will cover them. I'm sure it's true to some degree. The reasoning of my examples is valid if this holds. Uninsured losses affect a company's bottom line.

I never made any statements about the frequency or magnitude of losses due to damage by unlicensed, undocumented migrants. I believe we can safely assume that both are significantly non-zero.

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3. This extra revenue is then taxed by the government, and the rest of the community benefits (or wherever the taxes go). There is no evidence to support that because undocumented workers get a drivers license that their pay will suddenly become taxed or that any such revenue would be realized by the public.
I never said that the pay of undocumented migrants would be taxed. I said that the companies that are realizing the profit from their work would be taxed. I also never said that the public would necessarily reap any benefit from this tax revenue.

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So basically everything you stated as an example is total bullshit.
Yeah, and so is 90% of everything else that everyone says.
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:42 AM   #2
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So basically everything you stated as an example is total bullshit.


Yeah, and so is 90% of everything else that everyone says.
At least we agree on that much.
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