Obama says US must try talking to Iran

[queequeger]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

So you don't believe that Iran supports terrorism through both monetary and material support?

Not to repeat after tw (which I seem to be doing more and more often), but that makes them different from whom, exactly? We're giving money and weapons as we speak to non-government militias in Iraq. Throughout the history of modern war, the US, it's allies, and it's enemies ALL seemed to have thought that paying some extremists who hate you a little less than the other guy is a viable option for war. We can't possibly condemn someone for following in our footsteps.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by queequeger

Not to repeat after tw (which I seem to be doing more and more often), but that makes them different from whom, exactly? We're giving money and weapons as we speak to non-government militias in Iraq. Throughout the history of modern war, the US, it's allies, and it's enemies ALL seemed to have thought that paying some extremists who hate you a little less than the other guy is a viable option for war. We can't possibly condemn someone for following in our footsteps.

Well I guess it depends on whose side you want to be on. Thiers or ours?

[queequeger]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Well I guess it depends on whose side you want to be on. Thiers or ours?

'Theirs or ours' is the problem with all this bullshit. Honestly I'd rather not be on either side. In fact, as soon as I can, I'm growing a beard and moving somewhere with a nice beach.

The fact is, we latch on to crap like 'funding terrorism' as something that makes a state 'bad.' We take the following things in and of themselves to mean a state is 'bad:'
Supporting terrorist organizations
Working toward nuclear weapons
Suppression of human rights

We have done or are currently doing all of these things. I will not say we are the same as, let's say, Iran. But we take these actions as proof that a nation is somehow evil. It's the same bullshit as anti-gay republicans who are gay. It might not make them bad people, but they're certainly talking out of their asses.

Think of all the things that separate us from the enemy, and 95% of it can be attributed to where you're standing. VBIEDs = terrorism. Why? Welll, it's hidden so our forces can't see it coming. Claymore mines=...terrorism? If it were a buzz word back in the late 1700s, revolutionary fighters would have been labeled terrorist by the king of england. Are we an occupier or liberator?

Frankly, I'm so sick of everyone being so convinced of their righteousness that I won't be taking any part of it after May ever again.