Is being gay morally wrong?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Yes.

Personally, I define morality as as a set of ethics that guide the interaction between a group of people (2+). Ethics will have to be defined as what is right and wrong.

That is why I can't see how homosexuality can be seen as immoral or even a morality issue in a sociological sense. Unless you get really picky, whether a person is a homosexual, heterosexual, or bisexual, it really doesn't affect anyone else. The only way I can see it being a morality issue is if it is one forced upon us by a higher power or a person in power. But that should not happen in the United States being a secular democracy (republic).

I know your argument and do not really disagree with you but understand that your position is one of your age and time of birth. There are many people a few generations back who believe that homosexuality is a morality issue. I think it has more to do with one's religious beliefs more than anything else. There are a certain set of behaviors which society at large generally will not tolerate in public and those things are enforced by law, but if you dig a little deeper, from a historical position, you find that many of them were based on prevailing religious views. So I see how one group of people may define homosexuality from a morality position and another group does not see it that way.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I know your argument and do not really disagree with you but understand that your position is one of your age and time of birth. There are many people a few generations back who believe that homosexuality is a morality issue. I think it has more to do with one's religious beliefs more than anything else. There are a certain set of behaviors which society at large generally will not tolerate in public and those things are enforced by law, but if you dig a little deeper, from a historical position, you find that many of them were based on prevailing religious views. So I see how one group of people may define homosexuality from a morality position and another group does not see it that way.

Yeah, views on homosexuality have changed a lot in the past few generations and that is why I don't really get worked up when a vote gets passed to ban gay marriages because I know in thirty years, that will change.

But yeah, you are right, my views will probably never be even tried to be understood by people that were raised in past generations where homosexuality was seen more a moral issue than a sexual preference.

[Chocolatl]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

That is why I don't really get worked up when a vote gets passed to ban gay marriages because I know in thirty years, that will change.

So it's okay for those seeking gay marriages to be completely out of luck in the meantime?

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by Chocolatl

So it's okay for those seeking gay marriages to be completely out of luck in the meantime?

Its not okay but what else can you do?

From recent votes there has not been enough support to legalize same sex marriage for now but I am saying it will be there in 20-30 years so it isn't permanent. I strongly believe that gay marriages should be legal but the opposition is too strong to do anything about it right now.

[Kerotan]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Its not okay but what else can you do?

From recent votes there has not been enough support to legalize same sex marriage for now but I am saying it will be there in 20-30 years so it isn't permanent. I strongly believe that gay marriages should be legal but the opposition is too strong to do anything about it right now.

So your waiting for people to become liberal?

Some would argue that is an extraordinarily long process.
If anything, I think that the world is becoming more nationalist, more conservative, if you take a look at recent elections around the world the right is winning more than the left.