When Hillary runs ads like this...

[piercehawkeye45]

Hating Hilary for her tactics is the same as hating Bush for our foreign policy. Hilary is just a product of the American politics system. She will do anything to get anyone's vote, she is just more open and extreme about it. Our foreign policy hasn't been much different before Bush but he just made it more open and extreme, and we act like it is all his fault. If either of them left, someone will jump up and take their place.

This will probably only get worse by the election. If someone tries to be elected president without using bullshit tactics, they won't win.

[Griff]

There is a nice Obama piece in Sports Illustrated. The writer played one on one bball with him to get at his character. His take was that Obama plays hard, plays to win, but importantly doesn't play chippy and doesn't get ticked when someone else does. Oh and he has a nice jumper.