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Old 02-05-2008, 07:34 PM   #1
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Of course, Patton being a general, the "other poor dumb bastard" could be one of his own frontline troops.
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Old 02-05-2008, 09:05 PM   #2
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Of course, Patton being a general, the "other poor dumb bastard" could be one of his own frontline troops.
Are you trying to say that our generals look at their troops as nothing more than "Poor dumb bastards"?
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Old 02-06-2008, 02:37 AM   #3
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Marc Sageman in his book "Leaderless Jihad" defines how a terrorist is created. The process has four stages that begin with 'moral outrage'. Second step is a "morality play" where an inadvertent recruit sees his people at war. (How curious - the same attitude is found among 'big dic' thinkers who automatically use same rationalization to view war as the only solution.) Stage three is when personal and global grievances merge; triggered by personal frustration such as joblessness or discrimination (and no electricity, sewage in the street, children dying from no basic services, no education, soldiers firing 50 cal weapons at everyone out of fear, no potential future, a completely incompetent government … exactly what George Jr, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bremmer, Wolfovitz, Rice, etc created in Iraq). This is the point that others might call brainwashing.

The last stage is when a potential recruit crosses over; joins an actual terrorist cell to find a nurturing family of 'jihadists' who will prepare and equip him for his ultimate objective. Very few - hardly any - make the journey from stage three to stage four.

The trick to subverting terrorism addresses those earlier stages. President Cheney's agenda did nothing but encourage so many potential recruits to rise to stage three. Israel's actions - especially the illegal settlements of the West Bank and Gaza - did same to so many Palestinians. Even their last stupid invasion of Lebanon only made things worse.

How do we undo this mess? Addressing the reasons for stages one through three will probably take a decade just as a decade of ignorance was necessary to create the problem. In Iraq, America was so stupid that it only took a few years to drive so many to stage three.

The old biblical prophesy applies: "As thou sow so shall thou reap". It can easily take Israel a decade to weed that garden. Is Israel willing to withstand a decade of missile attacks before smarter policies finally terminate terrorism? ‘Big dic’ mentalities only believe in immediate solutions.

America has it easier. We need only leave what George Jr created and the problem starts curing itself. "If you break it, you own it”, said Colin Powel. But he was talking to someone too stupid and too wacko extremists to understand, and who under orders from Cheney.

Since so few potential recruits move on to stage four, it suggest how many are so angry as to be at stage three. Solutions to terrorism start by addressing the reasons that created stage three. It also explains why overt military action ('big dic' thinking such as blaming everything on a mythical Al Qaeda) only makes things worse.

Meanwhile, were the women retarded? It's an old political trick even used effectively by Hitler. Push the rumor. Then the least intelligent will always believe the rumor and agressively deny the truth when it arrives. There is no reason to believe these women were retarded. None expect the power of propaganda. Propagandists would also fear you learn the four stages of terrorism.
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Old 02-06-2008, 06:02 PM   #4
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Are you trying to say that our generals look at their troops as nothing more than "Poor dumb bastards"?
"nothing more than"? No. But he's already applying "bastard" to both sides, and anyone used as a sacrifice in war certainly could be called "poor". I guess you could object to "dumb", but I doubt that would be among the worst things soldiers call each other.
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