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Old 03-27-2008, 03:16 PM   #11
Undertoad
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We were at war when the objective was to remove by force the Iraqi government. During that time we were "at war" with Iraq. The war was short and went well and we removed the government. At that point we are not "at war" with anybody. We *occupy* Iraq. We are trying to help it become successful and peaceful by maintaining security while it tries to figure it out.

Here is what a real war looks like, this one undeclared:



Here is a comparison between the entire 5 years of operation in Iraq, and specific WW2 *battles* the US was involved in which constitute a few days' worth in a real, declared, total war:



We think it's warfighting now, because they say it is. But actually, we are too young and immature to comprehend war. We ain't seen nothing. When the people go off to fight expecting to die, and believing that's a good thing, then we'll know war.
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