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Old 04-26-2008, 10:58 AM   #1
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He calmly went onto the road picked up the dead cat and put it into the trash can. He had a large back garden and the said cat grew up with his two daughters. We ate dinner knowing the cat was in the trash. He was a singularly humourless bastard from my reckoning on.
Ok now you are saying there isn't enough compassion for animals. Which is it? What lofty principle are you standing on here, because you seem to have two opposing arguements.

What in the hell is the question?
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Old 04-26-2008, 11:18 AM   #2
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I don't want to upset anyone but it intrigues me how us humans feel so compassionatly for pets when we are so quiet and dignified about human troubles and am not speaking about human deaths. We seem to steel ourselves about the courage of humans but when it come to little or big animals we lose it. Now Cicero you are a woman of life bear with me I just wish to know how and why we humans make this disitinction. For example I was with my infant daughter in a park one day when she had to really take a crap and I held her under a tree with broken ground under it to do it and some people said to us to go to a toilet or use a diaper. I said to them coz they had a dog like your dog pisses and craps in a public toilet instead of all over the place.

We look at animals differently. That's all I'm saying. I have a blind woman lives near me and her Guide Dog is astonishing; it crosses a really busy road for her and acts like a human in every caring sense. I am astonished how a dog can be so trained in a way that we can't. It's never distracted even by other dogs. Fascinating.
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Old 04-26-2008, 12:34 PM   #3
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Cicero you are a woman of life bear with me I just wish to know how and why we humans make this disitinction.
I honestly read this over and over as: Cicero you are a woman of life bear, with me, I just want to know how and why we humans make this distinction.
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The reason why we make this distinction is the same reason why people don't like to watch your infant poo in public parks. We are supposed to have reasoning on our side, and be civilized.

People act out of grief or compassion in many different ways. If we weren't forced to show respect at funerals and be somber, we would be wallowing all over the caskets and flowers..not giving anyone a quiet moment of reflection for the person they also lost.

Dog deaths are less formal unless you are talking about our dog chamois that we bought a funeral plot for in a respectable pet cemetary that had a somber respectable funeral.

Example Dog: As soon as I saw my puppy dead in the street as it had been run over by a car, I dropped to my knees to pick it up, and could not see where I was carrying it because my eyes were full of tears. I was in shock and heaving, and sobbing all at the same time. It (he) as in, Astro, was limp in my arms as I carried it (he) as in, Astro, home in a massive state of dramatic grief.

Example Human: When I saw that my friend was showcased on the nightly news as dead, I went to his house, and saw no one was home. I dropped to my knees in the street and pounded my fist into the pavement, heaved, and sobbed. My friend had to pull me into her car as I was in a massive state of dramatic grief and quit functioning.

I don't do that at funerals.
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Old 04-26-2008, 12:51 PM   #4
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Dear Cicero, I never meant to go this way but your experieces have helped me. I to have dealt with death and yours is just as painful. Am sorry to bring this study to this. You can not be alone in your past griefs as will I.

I think we should let this thread go. Death is not easy at any level.
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Old 04-26-2008, 06:55 PM   #5
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I don't want to upset anyone but it intrigues me how us humans feel so compassionatly for pets when we are so quiet and dignified about human troubles and am not speaking about human deaths. We seem to steel ourselves about the courage of humans but when it come to little or big animals we lose it.
Because that is the custom where you, and I, live, doesn't make it a universal truth. In many parts of the world, animals are viewed as food or tools, only.
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We look at animals differently. That's all I'm saying. I have a blind woman lives near me and her Guide Dog is astonishing; it crosses a really busy road for her and acts like a human in every caring sense.
No, it acts like a dog... faithful and dedicated to please it's human. That's why losing such a friend is so painful.
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