Cruel Parents - Bad Names

[Radar]

Originally Posted by monster

Did you seriously post that in defence of your argument?

OMG this country is racist and religionist, let's all buckle down and be at white and christian as we can?

It's a news story about how people are discriminated against based on their names. It's a reality whether you choose to admit it or not.

[Aliantha]

I think the incidence of kids being picked on because of their names is the same as it's ever been. I don't think the new tradition of giving kids interesting or different names contributes or detracts from it. There are always going to be arsehole kids who've been brought up by arseholes to judge people just because of their name or what they look like. The world is full of arseholes. It always will be.

[monster]

Originally Posted by Radar

I always hire the best person for the job, but at the top of every resume is the name of the person. If they've got an oddball name, I read no further. If someone's name is Claud Balls, I laugh and toss the resume in the garbage and I judge the other candidates based on their level of skill, education, and experience.

So maybe you don't always hire the best person for the job. Maybe the best person has a name you consider stupid. That you judge them on their name..... well... it makes you look a little..... stupid?

I've been in the computer network consulting field for about 20 years with a few periods in the middle doing other jobs when computer jobs were scarce (bartender, casino dealer, etc.). The nature of consulting is that you move around a lot. You are hired for a certain period of time for a salary higher than permanent employees.

Right now I make $85,000 a year, but on average I've always made $60k or higher. I've never worked at McDonalds, though I have worked in fast food when in high school, and I delivered pizzas for extra money when things got tough. I have always paid my bills and never taken a dime of money from any government welfare plan.

Why so interested in my job? I don't go to your job and slap the plunger out of your hand or the dick out of your mouth.

Well I also happen to be qualified in IT and I wouldn't piss on someone's overheated circuit fire for what you make. Of course you wouldn't hire me because my name would make it obvious I'm female....

[monster]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

IThere are always going to be arsehole kids who've been brought up by arseholes to judge people just because of their name or what they look like. The world is full of arseholes. It always will be.

...but that would make radar an arsehole.......

[SteveDallas]

Can't I leave you people alone for just three hours???

[Radar]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

I think the incidence of kids being picked on because of their names is the same as it's ever been. I don't think the new tradition of giving kids interesting or different names contributes or detracts from it. There are always going to be arsehole kids who've been brought up by arseholes to judge people just because of their name or what they look like. The world is full of arseholes. It always will be.

This is true, but why give them ammunition? Why not give your kid a name that won't make them more of a target?

I love my daughter. I want her experience growing up to be a happy one. I don't want her to be haunted by an ugly or freaky name following her around. I don't want her to be teased, taunted, ridiculed, harassed, or bullied because of something like that. It's hard enough growing up without having to deal with that.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by monster

...but that would make radar an arsehole.......

And let me guess? You aren't?

[Aliantha]

You know Radar, if I wanted to give my kid a better chance, I would have made sure his father wasn't black (or brown actually). I would have had the little tiny piece of skin he has extra on his ear removed when the hospital suggested it at birth. I might even have had him circumcized.

My son doesn't get picked on. He has a happy life. He's very popular with his classmates and he's a school leader. I fail to see your argument at play in our lives.

[Cloud]

Originally Posted by Radar

If they've got an oddball name, I read no further. If someone's name is Claud Balls, I laugh and toss the resume in the garbage and I judge the other candidates based on their level of skill, education, and experience.

But why? I still don't understand what possible correlation someone's name has to their job performance. I am trying to understand why you would do this. I mean--are you afraid of being embarrassed at introducing them?

[monster]

Originally Posted by Radar

It's a news story about how people are discriminated against based on their names. It's a reality whether you choose to admit it or not.

I guess you're schooling didn't include sarcasm. Have you ever been diagnosed with social interaction problems?

Oh I admit it alright, but I believe my approach of challenging stereotypes and discrimination is better and more likely to improve the situation than your approach of buckling down and saying yessir. But then it appears you don't want the situation to change. Because you are racist and sexist, and the status quo suits you just fine.

[monster]

Originally Posted by Radar

And let me guess? You aren't?

oooh,

that's a blow that's hard to deflect or recover from.......


ouch

[Radar]

Originally Posted by monster

So maybe you don't always hire the best person for the job. Maybe the best person has a name you consider stupid. That you judge them on their name..... well... it makes you look a little..... stupid?

The best person for the job isn't always the most qualified or best educated. You can have someone who knows pretty much everything, but if he can't get along with others, or doesn't fit in with the rest of the team, he's worthless to me.

I went through a lot of people at my last job. I've hired people and told them to pack up their things and leave before lunchtime came around. I've gone through 3 or 4 people in a week until I get someone who has skills and who can actually get along well. I've met more techs with padded resumes claiming to have skills when they don't know shit about I.T. (like you perhaps)

Originally Posted by monster

Well I also happen to be qualified in IT and I wouldn't piss on someone's overheated circuit fire for what you make. Of course you wouldn't hire me because my name would make it obvious I'm female....

I could care less about whether or not you're female, but I wouldn't hire a bitch like you. Minimum wage would be too much for your ilk.

As far as your qualifications and earnings go, congrats on making more money than me. Good for you. If I were you, I wouldn't bet your qualifications were better than mine, but it's nice that you can find work for that much money....assuming you don't really live in a trailer somewhere collecting welfare, with 2 kids that have freaky names, making up lies about being in I.T.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by Cloud

But why? I still don't understand what possible correlation someone's name has to their job performance. I am trying to understand why you would do this. I mean--are you afraid of being embarrassed at introducing them?

Not just that. Every member of the team represents you. If they have a name that people think is funny or stupid, someone else will assume the team is stupid or not to be taken seriously. I also don't want to have to deal with fights among those who report to me when someone teases them about their name ... which happens even with adults.

If I hire someone named Frank N. Stein, people will think it's a joke.

[Cloud]

so, you are afraid they'll laugh at you.

Perhaps you need a little more humor in your life.

and compassion.

[lookout123]

I've gone through 3 or 4 people in a week until I get someone who has skills and who can actually get along well.

I find it painfully ironic that this is a major requirement for you, of all people. I'm just sayin'. You're not exactly known as a go with the flow and fit in kind of guy.