We Are Meaning Creating Creatures

[Flint]

Originally Posted by coberst

Flint

I think you hold the natural sciences in too high a regard. The natural sciences deal with objects and the human sciences deal with subjects. There is a great deal of difference between subjects an objects. When we try to make objects out of subjects we lose.

You misunderstand me; "natural sciences" are an enterprise of man, and thus flawed--an attempt to methodically stumble towards greater understanding of how things work. I'm not talking about the discipline of science, I'm talking about what it attempts to describe.

"Human sciences" as a description of subjective perceptory experiences is fine as such, but take one step too far in that direction and you'll start believing that the illusions that are generated by your brain's evolutionary mechanisms are true.

To understand us, in an honest way, we cannot separate ourselves from objects. If not objects in a physical universe, then what are we? Are we animated by "magical" forces? What conceit! This is to be rejected.

There is no level of complexity in the order of the universe where random or magical events start to occur; only a level of complexity that we fail to understand, and thus appears random or magical to us. What is outside of our tiny scope is deemed supernatural, when, in fact there is only one nature--and we are a part of it.