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Old 07-16-2008, 11:17 PM   #1
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There have been some spectacular failures of successful ballot initiatives. Prop 13 comes to mind. The unintended consequences of that well intentioned measure were devastating to the public schools. There were other tax funded organizations that suffered greatly.
Prop 13 didn't harm public schools, making them PUBLIC is what wrecked them. Allowing the government, especially the federal government to be involved in the funding, planning, building, testing, or designing curriculum of our schools is a nightmare.

I have to admit I was pretty angry after the last vote. We had a proposition (Prop 98) on the ballot to eliminate eminent domain for private use. It would have prevented politicians and wealthy developers from stealing someones home, rentals, business, or place of worship simply because something else would provide more tax dollars. It would have protected real property from people.

The developers, and the league of California cities, and counties, etc. created another proposition to sink the first one. They made a proposition that offered no protection at all and paid millions and millions of dollars to scare the crap out of old people and socialists by claiming Prop 98 would end rent control. Prop 98 didn't end rent control for anyone that was already renting under it....even though it should.

The scumbags got their way and the idiots of the state voted down the only protection they could get from having their property stolen from them, or their friends, neighbors, and relatives.
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Old 07-17-2008, 09:07 AM   #2
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California's referendum mania is a symptom of their f*cked up political system
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I have to admit I was pretty angry after the last vote. We had a proposition (Prop 98) on the ballot to eliminate eminent domain for private use. It would have prevented politicians and wealthy developers from stealing someones home, rentals, business, or place of worship simply because something else would provide more tax dollars. It would have protected real property from people.

The developers, and the league of California cities, and counties, etc. created another proposition to sink the first one. They made a proposition that offered no protection at all and paid millions and millions of dollars to scare the crap out of old people and socialists by claiming Prop 98 would end rent control. Prop 98 didn't end rent control for anyone that was already renting under it....even though it should.

The scumbags got their way and the idiots of the state voted down the only protection they could get from having their property stolen from them, or their friends, neighbors, and relatives.
Thank you for providing further evidence for my point.
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Old 07-17-2008, 09:11 AM   #3
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Prop 13 didn't harm public schools, making them PUBLIC is what wrecked them. Allowing the government, especially the federal government to be involved in the funding, planning, building, testing, or designing curriculum of our schools is a nightmare.
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You forgot to pack your eloquence for this trip out to the interwebz. I understand what you're saying, but, in addition to being fundamentally wrong, you misleadingly conflate the big bad Feds with what it takes to make a school system succeed. I'm just sayin.
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