Russian attack on country of Georgia

TheMercenary · 08-17-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Bush is an idiot and ...anyway, not the source. By neocons, I mean the group that surrounds him and basically pull his strings. It does seem that a lot of the people involved in our foreign policy were in the area in July. The White House is currently trying to downplay the meetings, but its hard to ignore the coincidence.

It is also easy to believe conspiracy theories when they fit your preconceived notions about what you want to believe.

Pico and ME · 08-18-2008, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

It is also easy to believe conspiracy theories when they fit your preconceived notions about what you want to believe.

What conspiracy theory are you thinking I believe in? Maybe its the same as yours. Because I believe, like you, that this could be part of the 'new' energy wars to come. But, I also believe that our incursions into Afghanistan and Iraq were too.

lookout123 · 08-18-2008, 01:38 PM

yeah, cuz buildings falling down had nothing to do with afghanistan.

Griff · 08-18-2008, 03:08 PM

The world is sufficiently complicated to contain both those ideas.

TheMercenary · 08-18-2008, 06:17 PM

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The world is sufficiently complicated to contain both those ideas.

Hell if we just wanted oil we would have invaded any numerous other countries with half the armies and a shorter distance at half the cost. Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Nigeria, yea, there is a long list. We only get about 15% of our oil from the Middle East.

Griff · 08-19-2008, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

We only get about 15% of our oil from the Middle East.

The other way to say this is that, "Holy shit 15% of the worlds oil supply is endangered when the Middle East is destabilized!" We are not there to take the oil. We are there to ensure supplies for the world economy. That has nothing to do with tin hats. See y'all after vacation.

TheMercenary · 08-18-2008, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME

But, I also believe that our incursions into Afghanistan and Iraq were too.

That I do not believe and challenge you to prove your assertions.

Pico and ME · 08-18-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

yeah, cuz buildings falling down had nothing to do with Afghanistan.

Afghanistan was responsible for 9/11? Huh.

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

That I do not believe and challenge you to prove your assertions.

My assertions are based on the research I did at the time. I discovered that there were several oil companies that needed a much calmer Afghanistan so that they could build a couple of planned pipelines. The Taliban were getting greedy and wanted a bigger cut of the action. I also discovered that Saddam was planning some sweet oil package deals with China and Russia to be set in motion once he was free of the sanctions. AND he was talking about dealing with euros instead of dollars. I cant say any of that is proof, but it sure did keep me from believing the propaganda we were given.

lookout123 · 08-18-2008, 06:33 PM

See, there was this organization called Taliban and a guy named Osama B... oh nevermind, just straighten your tin foil hat, it'll be easier.

Pico and ME · 08-18-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

See, there was this organization called Taliban and a guy named Osama B... oh nevermind, just straighten your tin foil hat, it'll be easier.

I see you really really like the Kool Aid.

lookout123 · 08-18-2008, 08:18 PM

The taste is cool, but I love when the big guy crashes through the wall. You know something else I like? Reality. Try it some time.

TheMercenary · 08-18-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Afghanistan was responsible for 9/11? Huh.

My assertions are based on the research I did at the time. I discovered that there were several oil companies that needed a much calmer Afghanistan so that they could build a couple of planned pipelines. The Taliban were getting greedy and wanted a bigger cut of the action. I also discovered that Saddam was planning some sweet oil package deals with China and Russia to be set in motion once he was free of the sanctions. AND he was talking about dealing with euros instead of dollars. I cant say any of that is proof, but it sure did keep me from believing the propaganda we were given.

You have been drinking something if you believe that crap. Let me adjust your tin foil hat for ya... Tell me you were born in 1990 or something like that so I can have some compassion for you....

Undertoad · 08-18-2008, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME

My assertions are based on the research I did at the time. I discovered that there were several oil companies that needed a much calmer Afghanistan so that they could build a couple of planned pipelines.

I posted the debunking of that one right here in February 2003. The source article is still available.

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I cant say any of that is proof, but it sure did keep me from believing the propaganda we were given.

You used something you assumed to be true, to determine other things were false. Don't do that.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-18-2008, 10:54 PM

I'm pretty sure I understand how and why we got started in Afghanistan, but can't figure out why they did such a piss poor job of it, then moved to Iraq before finishing the job.

lookout123 · 08-18-2008, 11:36 PM

I won't argue with that point Bruce, just the idiocy of the people that still feel 9/11 was part of a big oil conspiracy.

08-18-2008, 01:38 PM	#3
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08-18-2008, 03:08 PM	#4
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	The world is sufficiently complicated to contain both those ideas. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

08-18-2008, 06:33 PM	#9
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	See, there was this organization called Taliban and a guy named Osama B... oh nevermind, just straighten your tin foil hat, it'll be easier. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

08-18-2008, 08:18 PM	#11
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	The taste is cool, but I love when the big guy crashes through the wall. You know something else I like? Reality. Try it some time. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

08-18-2008, 10:54 PM	#14
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I'm pretty sure I understand how and why we got started in Afghanistan, but can't figure out why they did such a piss poor job of it, then moved to Iraq before finishing the job. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-18-2008, 11:36 PM	#15
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	I won't argue with that point Bruce, just the idiocy of the people that still feel 9/11 was part of a big oil conspiracy. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

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