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Join Date: Sep 2005
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I am really surprised to still see animals in your circus.
I'm 90% sure none tour with animals in the UK now - certainly not with big cats. The trend here is definitely human only - the Chinese State Circus sells out wherever it goes. |
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When Do I Get Virtual Unreality?
Join Date: Dec 2002
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RBBB makes a big deal out of the fact that they deal with their animals humanely. Their elephants in particular are billed as a conservation effort. I think one would be hard pressed to find animals that are cared for any better than the RBBB animals. After all, they're making money on them, and skimping on the maintenance is a bad idea.
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Aren't they mean to the elephants, or something?
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Join Date: Oct 2002
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For people like PETA, that believe animals should be left in their natural environment, yes. To rational people, no.
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Join Date: May 2007
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Everybody gets to look like Bart Simpson.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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I've been waiting for the PETA response. The care of the early circus animals did spark a animal rescue/humane treatment movement, but I do believe they are highly regulated now.
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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*SOME* circuses are mean to animals - for example, elephants are group animals and to keep an elephant without company is, if not cruel, at least unkind.
Making them do two-leg poses and such puts strain on their joints which causes long term problems. But then, NATURE is frequently cruel to animals. Is life as a circus animal any better or worse that life as a wild animal, with famines, predators, droughts, rivals, illness, etc? Oh, and my mate was in a three ring circus once. Him and two other arseholes. This circus may differ.
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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I feel sorry for people who cant feel even a tinge of guilt when they see a caged animal.
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Austin, TX
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I feel sorry for people who think that way, and yet think that the tinge of guilt they feel is enough to absolve them of their self-imposed responsibilities.
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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I just read "Water for Elephants" by Sara Gruen on the flight here. (I'm in Tokyo). The book is placed in a train circus and shares background stories and histories of circuses. circi? Anyway, great pix & thanks for sharing them. The tiger photo was especially fun.
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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I do think it is cruel to show big cats in a circus ring.
No matter how well the animals are treated they have to suffer from the life of constant change and appearing in front of noisy crowds on a regular basis. My cat is fully domesticated from centuries of being kept as a pet and I still feel rotten that my personal circumstances have meant he's been dragged from pillar to post this last year. I take comfort in the fact that we do have a genuine bond (again, due to the fact he's fully domesticated) and I think he knows he's safe with me. I don't judge anyone else, and so I don't campaign against animals in circuses. But I absolve myself by not going to see any circuses with animals in them. Luckily this is the trend in the UK now. |
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#30 |
The future is unwritten
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Eat them, and put their stuffed hides in the zoo... problem solved.
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