Tonights Debate 7 Oct

[DanaC]

I watched the debate. It was very interesting. Setting aside the fact that I agree with Obama more than I agree with McCain on policy, I thought Obama came across better overall. He just seems to have more weight to him, more gravitas. He carried himself with dignity, I thought, whereas McCain seemed almost *thinks* I don't know...ingratiating? His body language to me was slightly too close in, a little too pally. Needy. And he seemed to be bluffing along without much in the way of actual ideas. Apparently you guys can tackle all your nation's problems in one fell swoop, with no detailed plan simply because you are American and great, and because McCain knows what to do.

Obama, to me came across as someone who has a coherent plan in mind to begin tackling some of the more pressing problems. Whether or not you agree with that plan is obviously a different matter, but he at least sounds like he's got a plan. He seems very credible, like he could carry the office of President and well.

It's funny, because prior to the race really kicking off, when the reps and dems were choosing their candidates, I agreed with but wasn't sure whether I liked Obama and disagreed with but quite liked McCain. The more I see of Obama, the more impressed I am. The more I see of McCain the more insincere he seems, and the more crafted his humility.

[tw]

Originally Posted by DanaC

The more I see of McCain the more insincere he seems, and the more crafted his humility.

The McCain you saw recently does not represent the same man who was seeking his party's nomination. McCain's speeches have even a changed tone because so much of his people are now the wacko extremists of the Republican Party. McCain's speech writer even wrote for him the exact same phrase that George Jr was given to read: "The fundamentals of our economy are sound". Ironically, McCain read that speech as AIG was going down.

Later that afternoon, McCain changed his stump speech (they give the same speech all day long while campaigning). Apparently, even wacko extremists in McCain's campaign suddenly realized that their rhetoric was a lie.

The McCain that was seeking the Republican party nomination would have never given that speech. The McCain today cannot really say what he believes without alienating the Republican right wing fringe (George Jr supporters) that he needs to get elected. So McCain no longer has conviction in his speeches. He is now a compromised candidate.

When McCain was seeking the Republican nomination, the wacko extremists were repeatedly told disparaging things by Rush Limbaugh. Why did Rush Limbaugh reverse his preaching? McCain is the closest thing the right wing has to an extremist running for power. So they put Palin on his ticket.

[dar512]

Originally Posted by DanaC

He just seems to have more weight to him, more gravitas.

Is 'gravitas' the word of the week at the Cellar? Did I miss the announcement somehow?

[dar512]

It's pure speculation, but I think the maverick thing is a calculated attempt to distance himself from the current administration.

[jinx]

Of course it is. Just like the Change thing.

[dar512]

Originally Posted by jinx

Of course it is. Just like the Change thing.

Yeah. I guess I'd head that direction too. It's just so obvious that no one is happy with the current administration. Except maybe Merc?

I remember when the Rs used to be able to use the line "Are you better off than you were four years ago?" as a positive spin.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by jinx

Of course it is. Just like the Change thing.

Shhhh - he really means it. Whether or not its for the better...who knows.