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Old 11-16-2008, 12:51 PM   #1
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No doubt, esp when Obama begins to cut the military budget. If there is a direct relationship between the cutting of the budget and a catostrophic terror attack it would be a pretty big monkey on his back that would detract from any good he had done up to that point.
The Pentagon programs likely to be cut have no effect on our ability to fight terrorists. You don't need F-35s to stop truck bombs. Suggestions.
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:14 PM   #2
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The Pentagon programs likely to be cut have no effect on our ability to fight terrorists. You don't need F-35s to stop truck bombs. Suggestions.
No doubt about that. But that is not where cuts are made, at least that is not what the Clinton model used. The big business interests are preserved because Congress controls the purse strings and they are not about to let down these perks and lobbiests. Obama seems to be leaning toward a number of Clinton era advisors. There is no reason to think that he and the dems in congress will not do the same. Troop strength will be cut. Overall cuts in troop strength diminish the pool of selectable troops needed for the more cream of the crop organizations.
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:38 PM   #3
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Troop strength will increase by 70,000, the Governors want their National Guards back.
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Old 11-16-2008, 08:56 PM   #4
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The Pentagon programs likely to be cut have no effect on our ability to fight terrorists. You don't need F-35s to stop truck bombs.
Military has an even bigger problem. Having massively increased spending, the ROI on that money has resulted in much less useful products. IEEE Spectrum recently had a major series on this problem. However that goes right back to a definition of quality. Throwing more money at something does not create more innovation and often results in less innovation.

Return to the lessons from Nam. Massive spending on a war that violates even basic military principles results in a smaller, weaker, and unaffordable military. Lessons from Nam apply to "Mission Accomplished" and the $1trillion bill that will be paid years from now. Monies spend in 1968+ resulted in a weaker military and massive job losses in the late 1970s. A fact that every informed American knew back when George Jr was blaming Saddam for 11 September and those mythical WMDs.

Spending $700million on an F-22 that cannot even support ground troops? What kind of military is that? One that is getting ready to fight an alien invasion from Mars? Well we started it by littering their planet. Or is that one preparing to unilaterally attack (Pearl Harbor) India, Germany or Russia?

George Jr wanted to increase the military budget from $400billion to almost $1trillion annually. After all, under George Jr, we were making enemies everywhere. Maybe a smarter America would invest in solving problems by diplomacy. But then means one talks to everyone - especially enemies existing and potential.
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