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View Poll Results: Do you support saving the US auto companies with tax payer money?
I support saving any one or all of them. 1 3.13%
I support assisting them for a limited time with a limited amount. 11 34.38%
I don't support saving them. 19 59.38%
I have another plan to save them from certain death (explain below) 1 3.13%
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Old 11-19-2008, 05:07 PM   #1
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Just a little tongue in cheek. My guess is if it's that dire then yes, they would go home. But as tw pointed out, running out of parts does not happen there as you say it does at GM (a lot) so running out of parts a lot is part of the bigger problem as well.
Actually I don't know about GM. I know Chrysler. Well my husband does. There have been times when work stopped and they asked for volunteers to go home. Many do, but some stay...usually my husband is one of them and they usually give him a sweeping job if there isn't anything available on another line. But sometimes a line might be waiting on parts from another line and there is nothing to do while they wait. So they might play cards or do crossword puzzles or something. I work at Lowe's and I see a lot of the employees taking extra breaks or just hanging out with each other and talking. Its not that there isn't anything to do (they can always straighten shelves) its just that there aren't any pressing projects or maybe a lull in customers...so they goof off. Down time happens everywhere.
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Old 11-19-2008, 06:29 PM   #2
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Its not that there isn't anything to do (they can always straighten shelves) its just that there aren't any pressing projects or maybe a lull in customers...so they goof off. Down time happens everywhere.
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Old 11-20-2008, 07:37 AM   #3
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Actually I don't know about GM. I know Chrysler. Well my husband does. There have been times when work stopped and they asked for volunteers to go home. Many do, but some stay...usually my husband is one of them and they usually give him a sweeping job if there isn't anything available on another line. But sometimes a line might be waiting on parts from another line and there is nothing to do while they wait. So they might play cards or do crossword puzzles or something. I work at Lowe's and I see a lot of the employees taking extra breaks or just hanging out with each other and talking. Its not that there isn't anything to do (they can always straighten shelves) its just that there aren't any pressing projects or maybe a lull in customers...so they goof off. Down time happens everywhere.
I see your point Pico. I broke it down into very simplistic terms, saying "this happens and it shouldn't" but I do understand there are other circumstances. I can't say that in an office we don't occasionally step away and chat.

Some of us come to the Cellar! Not me...

I really hope that things work out for the best for the employees and their families, and for our country. I have no idea what is best!
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