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Old 12-21-2008, 10:16 AM   #1
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I think mine would rust or something if I kept it moist.
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Old 12-21-2008, 01:06 PM   #2
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I think mine would rust or something if I kept it moist.
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Old 12-22-2008, 09:07 AM   #3
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They should make a whole house breaker that does both AFCI and GFCI. I'd pay $150 for one.

I installed a new GFCI outlet yesterday for an upcoming FIOS installation in my unfinished basement. It cost around $15-20 for the single outlet.
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Old 12-22-2008, 06:41 PM   #4
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They should make a whole house breaker that does both AFCI and GFCI.
That's done in the UK. In the US, refrigerators cannot be on a GFCI for human safety reasons.
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Old 12-23-2008, 07:43 AM   #5
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That's done in the UK. In the US, refrigerators cannot be on a GFCI for human safety reasons.
Why? They would rather there be a ground fault and an electrocuted person than have spoiled food?
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Old 12-23-2008, 02:42 PM   #6
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Why? They would rather there be a ground fault and an electrocuted person than have spoiled food?
Far riskier to a human is food spoiled by a refrigerator power off for too long; then cooled by a reset GFCI.

Meanwhile, all refrigerators must have three wire receptacles that make danger minimal.

Do electrical work. Getting shocked is rarely deadly. And then a standard refrigerator has additional connections that make that risk even less. Food poisoning is considered a greater threat according to code.

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Old 12-23-2008, 03:29 PM   #7
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We used to pay a game when I was a kid. The game was to touch the shielding on a bx armored cable by our basement steps while simultaneously touching a lally column with the other hand. The person who could hold on longest would win.

One day we casually mentioned this game to my dad, and he went white. He fixed whatever it was so we couldn't play that game any more. Well, we could still play, but the fun was gone.

I don't think it was the full force of the current, because I've received that before too, and it's strong. But it was very tingly.
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