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Old 01-07-2009, 06:59 AM   #1
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All the Dems have done on this one is to give the Repubs a chance to totally tear the guy appart during the conformation hearings. I can imagine them sitting up there saying, "So Mr. Pannnetta, list your intelligence experience and acomplishments that you think make you qualified to be the head of one of the largest intelligence agencies in the world."

Joe Biden admitted that they should have consulted more members of Congress who were involved in Intell before they chose Pannetta. I could see if they chose him for overall intell director instead of head of CIA, but they didn't. Now they will have to put up with more problems on the inside and if he is not respected by the rank and file he is going to have huge problems.
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Old 01-07-2009, 01:52 PM   #2
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Now they will have to put up with more problems on the inside and if he is not respected by the rank and file he is going to have huge problems.
I think it's about time the "rank and file" stopped stroking their petty egos and started doing what's best for the country. Not only in the CIA, but most of the government agencies.
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Old 01-07-2009, 02:09 PM   #3
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I think that's what I've been trying to say all along: quit bitching and moaning about someone peeing in your spot and get on with the business of getting on board to do what's best for this country.
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Old 01-08-2009, 09:45 AM   #4
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I think it's about time the "rank and file" stopped stroking their petty egos and started doing what's best for the country. Not only in the CIA, but most of the government agencies.
I believe they have been doing that all along. You seem to think otherwise, but the rank and file of this country has been doing what is right for a long time. It is the people at the top who keep screwing it up. This appointment is just opening the chance for another of those screw ups to do it again.
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Old 01-08-2009, 10:20 AM   #5
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I believe they have been doing that all along. You seem to think otherwise, but the rank and file of this country has been doing what is right for a long time. It is the people at the top who keep screwing it up. This appointment is just opening the chance for another of those screw ups to do it again.
Which is it?
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:40 AM   #6
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Which is it?
Both. The rank and file are well-intended folk who will screw up if not managed by competent leadership. But, like any group, they will screw up in a different way if they feel their leader does not represent or understand them.

Not everyone who thinks Panetta was not the best choice is advancing a right-wing agenda but I can only speak for myself. I'll settle for anybody who can effectively use the resources of the agency to carry out the wishes of the President. And its not obvious to me how Panetta is the ideal candidate to answer that call of duty.

The fact that other people who were also not obvious choices did a good job as an argument in support of Panetta is utterly devoid of merit.
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:53 AM   #7
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Both. The rank and file are well-intended folk who will screw up if not managed by competent leadership. But, like any group, they will screw up in a different way if they feel their leader does not represent or understand them.
The premise of the first quote wasn't incompetence; it was a lack of respect for an outsider. If the rank and file let their resentment for an outsider cause "huge problems", then they are not "doing what is right". If he proves incompetent later, that's on him.
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The fact that other people who were also not obvious choices did a good job as an argument in support of Panetta is utterly devoid of merit.
Correct. It is not an argument in support of Panetta. It is a counterexample to one of the arguments against Panetta.
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:24 PM   #8
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Which is it?
You are quite confused between people who do not want to do what is right by their boss and those who do the right thing everyday in their job. Fail.
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Old 01-09-2009, 12:34 AM   #9
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You are quite confused between people who do not want to do what is right by their boss and those who do the right thing everyday in their job. Fail.
No I'm confused by you making contradictory statements to further your vendetta against all democrats, because they pushed you out of your cushy job in the military.
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