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Old 02-03-2009, 12:13 AM   #1
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So? I will defend numerous groups I don't support.
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Old 02-03-2009, 12:31 AM   #2
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So? I will defend numerous groups I don't support.
Good enough. I respect that. Defend the terrorist organizations. I would be interested in your defense.
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Old 02-03-2009, 12:59 PM   #3
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Good enough. I respect that. Defend the terrorist organizations. I would be interested in your defense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

I defend what I believe to be true. It has been shown that Hamas stopped firing rockets after the ceasefire and that Israel did not fully open trade routes in response. Hamas has admitted that they started firing rockets because of the blockade (November 4th is just a catyalist). Hamas has admitted that they will be willing to accept a two state solution on certain terms. These are facts that can be backed by evidence. I am not supporting Hamas by making those statements, or even purposely defending a resistance movement/terrorist group, I am laying out the facts and what I believe.

But, as I said many times before, those arguments don't really mean much to me besides proving that Israel has some fault in this conflict as well. In reality, I see both Israel and Hamas as two groups that are forced into situations where they will naturally choose the "immoral" route, the difference being that Israel has massive amounts of power while Hamas does not. Both sides are willing to kill civilians. Both sides have made decisions that have led to further conflict. Both sides will fight until their terms are met.

Going back to the choice argument, one can say that one side does have a choice but those are usually idealistic at best and will only accomplish goals that the person who is speaking wants. If one thinks that peace should occur right now with the current situation, Palestine (Hamas to be more specific) will naturally be blamed. If one thinks that peace should occur with in a situation that is more favorable to Palestinians, Israel will naturally be blamed.
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