Republicans Want Party To Be Like Palin

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by Griff

This is a very interesting time for the Republicans. The Neo-conservatives have destroyed the parties credibility. Which faction has values which appeal across the center of the electorate? The religious right are always organized but that is their only appeal. The libertarian wing is inconsistant on the social issues which have broader appeal than the free market message especially in a down-turn. The money crowd had their run and managed to smear the free marketers in their recent crime wave. Right now, their best shot may be the moderates. People will tire of the Pelosi crowd, so there is an opportunity a few years out.

The money crowd ARE the free marketers.

The dems won nothing. The GOP has managed to smear itself with its own shit to the point where nobody but the hard core religious nuts will go anywhere near them...and they are still hooting and throwing poop as if there was nothing wrong, as if they hadn't been trounced in an election. They are, in fact, still jabbering about running Palin in 2012, despite the fact that she basically sank McCain.

So now it's a race to the bottom. On one hand, you have the congressional dems, acting like they did in the old days, the days before Newt Gingrich handed them their collective arses, and on the other hand, you have the GOP reassuring themselves that they don't need to change a thing.

But here's the deal...everyone in the middle already knew what Pelosi was, and they still voted against McCain/Palin, and they still threw the GOP out of congress by the truckload.

The GOP had better unfuck themselves. And they'd better do it fast. 2010 will be here before you know it.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by TGRR

The GOP has managed to smear itself with its own shit to the point where nobody but the hard core religious nuts will go anywhere near them...and they are still hooting and throwing poop as if there was nothing wrong, as if they hadn't been trounced in an election. They are, in fact, still jabbering about running Palin in 2012, despite the fact that she basically sank McCain.

They are still touting her and doing damage control.

The GOP had better unfuck themselves. And they'd better do it fast. 2010 will be here before you know it.

This won't help.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by TGRR

The GOP had better unfuck themselves. And they'd better do it fast. 2010 will be here before you know it.

That leaves plenty more time for the Dems to fuck it up.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

That leaves plenty more time for the Dems to fuck it up.

Which is the GOP's only hope because they apparently have nothing to add to the conversation. This rooting against America bit by party partisans gets very old.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by Griff

Which is the GOP's only hope because they apparently have nothing to add to the conversation. This rooting against America bit by party partisans gets very old.

On top of that, I think the republican partisans seriously underestimate how much America as a whole hates GWB...and since they cannot seem to separate themselves from his memory, and make no effort to try, they will lose against the wimpiest collection of Dems in living memory.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by TGRR

On top of that, I think the republican partisans seriously underestimate how much America as a whole hates GWB...and since they cannot seem to separate themselves from his memory, and make no effort to try, they will lose against the wimpiest collection of Dems in living memory.

You got it right. It is about Bush Hate. Nothing more, nothing less. They are blinded by their hate like whites hating blacks in the 30's or Nazi's hating Jews in the 40's.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You got it right. It is about Bush Hate. Nothing more, nothing less. They are blinded by their hate like whites hating blacks in the 30's or Nazi's hating Jews in the 40's.

There is no comparison between hating Bush and hating Blacks or Jews. The very implication is offensive, unless you also believe that the people who hate Bush also hate all white people or all people from CT.

Since this is patently bullshit, your analogy is utterly worthless.

Fact: I have nothing against fake Texans or people from rich families on the East coast (in general), but I do hate Bush. I'm proud to hate Bush. My whole family hates Bush. It brings us together, you know?

And none of us are "blinded" by hate. We hate Bush because of what we saw him do...we don't hate what he did because he did it. And we don't vote GOP, because the GOP still thinks we want Bush's policies. The very same policies that made us hate him in the first place.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by TGRR

There is no comparison between hating Bush and hating Blacks or Jews. The very implication is offensive, unless you also believe that the people who hate Bush also hate all white people or all people from CT.

Since this is patently bullshit, your analogy is utterly worthless.

Fact: I have nothing against fake Texans or people from rich families on the East coast (in general), but I do hate Bush. I'm proud to hate Bush. My whole family hates Bush. It brings us together, you know?

And none of us are "blinded" by hate. We hate Bush because of what we saw him do...we don't hate what he did because he did it. And we don't vote GOP, because the GOP still thinks we want Bush's policies. The very same policies that made us hate him in the first place.

Hey that is your opinion. I don't give a shit if you find it an utterly worthless analogy. It is a fact. People hate Bush that much. You think Bush is a Fake Texan? Please. Who says you get to make that judgement? You are as blinded by the hate the rest of the haters are. No big deal, just admit it. Much of the GOP distanced themselves from Bush long before the election of recent. This is about perception.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You got it right. It is about Bush Hate. Nothing more, nothing less. They are blinded by their hate like whites hating blacks in the 30's or Nazi's hating Jews in the 40's.

Most Americans dont hate Buish.

They simply lost confidence is his policies and practices as they saw how it impacted them personally and the country as a whole.

And the Republican party is the embodiment of those policies....so rigid in its ideology, particularly among the social conservative base that dominates the party at the grass roots, that it is not very welcoming to the vast majority of Americans who are in the center politically.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Redux

Most Americans don't hate Bush.

They simply lost confidence is his policies and practices as they saw how it impacted them personally and the country as a whole.

And the Republican party is the embodiment of those policies....so rigid in its ideology, particularly among the social conservative base that dominates the party at the grass roots, that it is not very welcoming to the vast majority of Americans who are in the center politically.

I think the party is monetarily dominated by those right wing extremists, not the grassroots.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by Redux

Most Americans dont hate Buish.

Keep on believing that, sunshine. What was his approval rating at the end? Or even during his last 3 years? And all those people jeering at the inauguration - the first public event which Bush had no control over - were just taking the Mickey.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Most Americans dont hate Buish.

They simply lost confidence is his policies and practices as they saw how it impacted them personally and the country as a whole.

And the Republican party is the embodiment of those policies....so rigid in its ideology, particularly among the social conservative base that dominates the party at the grass roots, that it is not very welcoming to the vast majority of Americans who are in the center politically.

IMHO I would call bull shit on that as well. The electorate drank the Koolaid and equated the GOP with Bush. Come on now, it is not rocket science. They equated the extremist views that were exploited by Daily Kos and Huffington. Obama made promises he can never keep, imagine that, and now I will be one to hold his feet to the fire. Obama made promises that the poor folk sucked up to like a starving child in Darfur. Where's the beef? I'll give you a year and we will begin to list the excuses as to why we still have few of the things promised by the Demoncrats, Congressional and Presidential.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

That leaves plenty more time for the Dems to fuck it up.

See above. The Dems don't have an image problem with most of the electorate, truth notwithstanding.

And the GOP refuses to take advantage of what weaknesses the dems ARE showing, because they're too busy living in denial over the last election.