Anyone being affected by Proposition 8?

[Urbane Guerrilla]

What the too-conservative are missing here is that a "union" encourages a lifestyle of commitment to one other, and thus encourages a life that isn't sexually promiscuous. Therefore, it's a social institution that causes gay people to be more like straight people -- and where would straight people complain on that score?

Even Saint Paul would approve.

X-Lydia sez to me rather often that the most determined support for Prop. 8 seems to come from the people who overdo on gender roles within marriage, and are made very itchy at visualizing a marriage that doesn't hew so rigidly to the gender roles they've been taught since babyhood. She regards this as a terrible intellectual failing.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

What the too-conservative are missing here is that a "union" encourages a lifestyle of commitment to one other, and thus encourages a life that isn't sexually promiscuous. Therefore, it's a social institution that causes gay people to be more like straight people -- and where would straight people complain on that score?

They don't want gay people to be more like straight people. They view the evolving attitude towards tolerance as "defining away deviancy".

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Even Saint Paul would approve.

You think?
Women-should-worship-God-by-worshipping-their-man St Paul?
The-reason-the-Catholic-church-can't-countenance-women-priests St Paul?
The-reason-evangelical-Christians-believe-women-should-be-barefoot-and-pregnant St Paul?

Of course I give him leeway for having written what he did a v-e-r-y long time ago. But given that the Church allows no such leeway I think you may have another St Paul in mind.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

What the too-conservative are missing here is that a "union" encourages a lifestyle of commitment to one other, and thus encourages a life that isn't sexually promiscuous. Therefore, it's a social institution that causes gay people to be more like straight people -- and where would straight people complain on that score?

So homosexuals are more sexually promiscuous then straight people?

This law will not change the lifestyles of homosexuals, it will just allow them to gain a social status and the benefits from that. The ones that want to be in a relationship are in a relationship. The ones that don't want to be in a relationship aren't.