A New World Order

[classicman]

Wasn't there a thread about Chinese hackers last year or so?
One article I read said that spam had a lot to do with this too. I can't find it now, but any of you IT guys have any input on this? How can they control my computer remotely?

[TheMercenary]

That is a pretty scary thought. They supposedly hacked into sensitive areas and were able to listen remotely or use the camera to see the room. Makes you seriously consider what you should leave attached to the puter when you are not using it. But of course I just turn mine off.

[sugarpop]

yes, that is very scary.

[ZenGum]

No it's not. We all look the same to them, so it doesn't matter.

[bigw00dy]

Front page of Cnn.com

Creeping up on us

Kinda like the cow's heading toward the slaughterhouse...They never know they are heading there, they just keep following the cow in front of them.

[Beestie]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

No it's not. We all look the same to them, so it doesn't matter.

There is no 'them.' We have hackers combing through Chinese, Russian and Iranian servers as well. So them, as it turns out, is everybody. Which is as it has been for as long as anyone can remember.

Of course, you won't see a story in the Chinese, Russian or Iranian media about a major infiltration by US-led hackers. While this gives one the impression that we (the US) are getting our asses handed to us while we sit on our government butts eating jelly donuts, nothing could be further from the truth.

We can only see one side of the scoreboard. The game, in all likelihood, is either tied or with at most a marginal and ever-changing lead.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Beestie

There is no 'them.' We have hackers combing through Chinese, Russian and Iranian servers as well. So them, as it turns out, is everybody.

Which is how the intelligence community silenced all the hype and fear from the George Jr administration. They were reading memos from Iranian scientists on the uranium enrichment program. These scientists were often discussing how the mullahs were subverting the program due to perceived stupidity. Suddenly Iran did not have any bomb grade material because even the US government subverts computers.

Under the new powers of Fatherland Security and secret presidential findings, how much government is now legally tapping your computer? You also cannot be trusted. You too can be a sleeper cell.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by tw
Responsible bonuses. Nobody gets them until four to ten years later when the spread sheets actually report an employee’s real achievements.

Cite an example of that please. What industry has employees wait up to a decade for their pay?

Originally Posted by tw
According to classicman – retention bonuses because he (Wagoner)was doing so much good for GM.

False. Please CITE ONE TIME where I said anything about Wagoner deserving bonuses - Post anything to corroborate another of your blatant LIES. If not post an public apology and correction on the board. I have put up with you and your attacks for too long. It stops now. Either make your point with facts or STFU.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by classicman

Cite an example of that please. What industry has employees wait up to a decade for their pay?

It's pretty common for high rollers to defer compensation or get delayed stock options, so they will collect after their income level drops for tax purposes, or to get a bigger deal by waiting to collect.
Of course we're talking people that make seven figures yearly to begin with.
Actually, employer's matching funds in a 401k is pretty much the same deal.

[tw]

Originally Posted by classicman

Cite an example of that please. What industry has employees wait up to a decade for their pay?

Its not pay. Its a bonus. If you wanted to be intelligent, you would have known that.

If bonus is merit pay, then the pay should be determined when the merit is actually realized - four or ten years later. Is that too complicated for a wacko extremist? Probably.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by tw

Its not pay. Its a bonus. If you wanted to be intelligent, you would have known that.
If bonus is merit pay, then the pay should be determined when the merit is actually realized - four or ten years later. Is that too complicated for a wacko extremist? Probably.

This post contradicts what tw has posted earlier. Care to try again and either put-up or man-up and apologize.
Oh Whats the matter Tommy boy? Have to try to attack my intelligence now? You will lose terribly on that account as well. Try another or......

Please CITE ONE TIME where I said anything about Wagoner deserving bonuses - Post anything to corroborate another of tw's blatant LIES. If not post an public apology and correction on the board. I have put up with you and your attacks for too long. It stops now. Either make your point with facts or STFU.

[tw]

Originally Posted by classicman

This post contradicts what tw has posted earlier.

No. I only attacks your intelligence. You keep misplacing it - wacko.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by classicman

This post contradicts what tw has posted earlier. Care to try again and either put-up or man-up and apologize.
Oh Whats the matter Tommy boy? Have to try to attack my intelligence now? You will lose terribly on that account as well. Try another or......

Just put him on ignore and be done with it.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by classicman

This post contradicts what tw has posted earlier. Care to try again and either put-up or man-up and apologize.
Oh Whats the matter Tommy boy? Have to try to attack my intelligence now? You will lose terribly on that account as well. Try another or......
Please CITE ONE TIME where I said anything about Wagoner deserving bonuses - Post anything to corroborate another of tw's blatant LIES. If not post an public apology and correction on the board. I have put up with you and your attacks for too long. It stops now. Either make your point with facts or STFU.

Its been over a week - no cite, no retraction.

Originally Posted by tw

No. I only attacks your intelligence. You keep misplacing it - I'm a wacko.

Nice grammar there big boy - lol

Oh and that proves yet again that tw attacks the poster, not the post.
Yet again another contradiction of tw's. How typical.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Just put him on ignore and be done with it.

Yeh, thats what he wants though. So his drivel can go unchallenged. I guess I'll again have to take the high road and not get drawn into his petty crap.

Note: tw has not substantiated his lie nor retracted his post.
Goes to show a lot about his character.

[TheMercenary]

The cost of going digital? And they want to put all our medical records in a central digital format?

Some one want our place in the World Order:

Electricity Grid in U.S. Penetrated By Spies

WASHINGTON -- Cyberspies have penetrated the U.S. electrical grid and left behind software programs that could be used to disrupt the system, according to current and former national-security officials.

The spies came from China, Russia and other countries, these officials said, and were believed to be on a mission to navigate the U.S. electrical system and its controls. The intruders haven't sought to damage the power grid or other key infrastructure, but officials warned they could try during a crisis or war.

"The Chinese have attempted to map our infrastructure, such as the electrical grid," said a senior intelligence official. "So have the Russians."

The espionage appeared pervasive across the U.S. and doesn't target a particular company or region, said a former Department of Homeland Security official. "There are intrusions, and they are growing," the former official said, referring to electrical systems. "There were a lot last year."

Many of the intrusions were detected not by the companies in charge of the infrastructure but by U.S. intelligence agencies, officials said. Intelligence officials worry about cyber attackers taking control of electrical facilities, a nuclear power plant or financial networks via the Internet.

Authorities investigating the intrusions have found software tools left behind that could be used to destroy infrastructure components, the senior intelligence official said. He added, "If we go to war with them, they will try to turn them on."

Officials said water, sewage and other infrastructure systems also were at risk.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123914805204099085.html