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Old 03-29-2009, 03:42 PM   #1
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I don't think food should be taxed,
And I don't think water should be taxed
So what do you think should be taxed? Where/how do you determine what should be from taxation and what should be taxed? Where do you draw the line?
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WE didn't pollute the water, business did.
What business did? Who the heck is running these big bad evil businesses and corporations that you keep referring to? Are they some sort of alien overlords or something? There are people making the decisions.
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I really think that, over the past 30 years, profit has become such a motivating factor in everything that it has polluted the capitalist model.
Wow! It started in the 70's or 80's then? What was the "motivating factor" before then?
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Old 03-29-2009, 07:28 PM   #2
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So what do you think should be taxed? Where/how do you determine what should be from taxation and what should be taxed? Where do you draw the line?
Maybe the necessities should not be taxed. You know, utilities, food, water.

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What business did? Who the heck is running these big bad evil businesses and corporations that you keep referring to? Are they some sort of alien overlords or something? There are people making the decisions.
Well gee, mercury certainly doesn't make it into the water supply all by itself, neither do other toxic chemicals and biological agents. And e coli and salmonella didn't make it into spinach and carrots all by themselves. In addition, drinking water also now has traces of pharmacueticals in it, probably from people dumping pills in the toilet.

http://www.sierraclub.org/cleanwater/
http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/society/waterpollution.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_pollution
http://www.nrdc.org/water/default.asp
http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/archive/x1574803042


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Wow! It started in the 70's or 80's then? What was the "motivating factor" before then?
I'm not saying profit hasn't always been a motivating factor, and that greed hasn't always been around. I am saying it has gotten out of control, at the expense of society as a whole.
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Old 03-29-2009, 07:46 PM   #3
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Maybe the necessities should not be taxed. You know, utilities, food, water.
Many states have groceries, prescription drugs and sometimes clothing exempt from general sales tax.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_t...te_sales_taxes

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Old 03-29-2009, 08:02 PM   #4
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Yes, but even states like PA that have no sales tax on food/drugs/clothing, have plenty of hidden taxes that drive the cost of those items. Of course it's better than the states that do both.
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Old 03-29-2009, 11:34 PM   #5
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Maybe the necessities should not be taxed. You know, utilities, food, water.
Bout 20 years ago somebody did a study of all the taxes that merely apply to a loaf of bread. Not the sales tax on the bread itself, but the fuel tax on the gas used to transport it from bakery to store, the tax on the phone call to place the order for it, etc. They found like 150 taxes that led to an increase in the price of a loaf of bread.

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