Al Franken...is this for real?

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

No there are plenty of facts that point to Franken and Air America and they were involved in some very shady lending practices.

Cite those facts please, rather than innuendo...specifically regarding Franken and shady lending practices...as opposed to the Air America management.

Do you always hold employees responsible for actions of management...or just when it suits your agenda?

I'm not defending Franken...just looking for the plentiful facts.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Hardly a one-party issue.

Politico did a survey of all 99 senators earlier this year, asking about their taxes.

The results:

May hardly be a problem for one party but there is only one party in complete power and it is a big problem for them. They were to re-set the bar and things were going to be different. Pelosi made that promise to the country in 2006. So far I see nothing to believe that she or her party has lived up to her claims.

[Undertoad]

Redux is winning this one. The Malkin piece is a pile of nothing.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Cite those facts please, rather than innuendo...specifically regarding Franken and shady lending practices...as opposed to the Air America management.

Do you always hold employees responsible for actions of management...or just when it suits your agenda?

I'm not defending Franken...just looking for the plentiful facts.

Here is a nice summary. Like I said there are enough factual red flags to question Franken's integrity. Not to mention the quotes of the Rolling Stone interview are another measure of what the new standard for decorum can be for the majority.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...1397/index.htm

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

May hardly be a problem for one party but there is only one party in complete power and it is a big problem for them. They were to re-set the bar and things were going to be different. Pelosi made that promise to the country in 2006. So far I see nothing to believe that she or her party has lived up to her claims.

Start with the ethics/lobby reform bill the Democrats enacted as their first act in 2007...the first in more than 15 years.

Add a bill last year to make Senate campaign contributions more transparent....that was blocked by one Republican Senator (Ensign).

And the same bill place on "hold" this year by a different Republican Senator (Roberts).

And its seems to me its hard to argue that the Democrats have not attempted to provide more transparency and accountability.

[TheMercenary]

You can repeat your mantra of "transparency and accountability" all you want as they continue to appoint and elect people who have not paid their taxes until it was uncovered immediately before appointment.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Here is a nice summary. Like I said there are enough factual red flags to question Franken's integrity. Not to mention the quotes of the Rolling Stone interview are another measure of what the new standard for decorum can be for the majority.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...1397/index.htm

So in your mind, Franken, the employee, is responsible for the acts of the management of Air America.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You can repeat your mantra of "transparency and accountability" all you want as they continue to appoint and elect people who have not paid their taxes until it was uncovered immediately before appointment.

Its not a mantra....its laws enacted or attempted to be enacted by Democrats.

And you can ignore the facts of those legislative initiatives.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

So in your mind, Franken, the employee, is responsible for the acts of the management of Air America.

Franken had direct knowledge of the deal because he paid $50,000 in an attempt to cover for the station. Again, follow my words, enough red flags to question his integrity combined with his public comments.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

And you can ignore the facts of those legislative initiatives.

And you can ignore the backgrounds of the tax dodgers elected and appointed.

LOL....and you wonder why you drive people away here.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

LOL....and you wonder why you drive people away here.

Who said I wonder any such thing? You?

I dont know Griff....but I understand where he is coming from here.

I'll take a different approach....you keep trolling and I'll keep posting facts (with cites) and questioning bullshit when I see it.

[richlevy]

I thought Merc was crazy until I read Urbane Guerilla.

Now I realize that Merc isn't the fringe, Merc is where the fringe is stitched onto the jacket.

Ever since the Republican party imploded, Merc has lost a few stitches. When the last few pop loose, it will be interesting to see where he lands.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

I'll keep posting facts (with cites) and questioning bullshit when I see it.

I'll be right behind you doing the same thing.