Obama's first failed appointment

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Eh, the more I think about it the more I agree with Lookout's tax idea. I would change it to a small progressive tax then flat rate but the main point is to have a large sales tax. I don't know if he went into this, but I would make the sales tax "progressive" as well. Low sales tax for necessities (food, clothing, etc), higher for entertainment, and extremely high for luxury items.

I have said that wouldn't be a bad idea. The problem with the way it has been presented, is it would hit the lower income and middle class too much, and it would be much better for wealthier people. It will never ahppen though, because the people at the top would never stand for a high luxury tax on their playthings.

Honestly, I don't see what is so bad about a progressive income tax, without all the loopholes.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

Honestly, I don't see what is so bad about a progressive income tax, without all the loopholes.

because the people who make it don't want to give it to people who don't.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

because the people who make it don't want to give it to people who don't.

I havent seen any data anywhere to support that.

By that I mean, the top taxpayers saying they pay too much.

The people making that claim are not the rich in many (most?) cases, but persons who are ideologically opposed to a progressive tax.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

I havent seen any data anywhere to support that.

By that I mean, the top taxpayers saying they pay too much.

The people making that claim are not the rich in many (most?) cases, but persons who are ideologically opposed to a progressive tax.

We are having a circular discussion here, again.

Why would you need to have some data saying such a thing by top taxpayers? Such a person would most likely not say such a thing. Well maybe Donald Trump. The problem is that "rich" still has not been defined. And the proposals to raise taxes on the "rich" is not a tax on the "rich" at all but a tax on upper income earners. And it is among those upper income earners that pay the majority of all federal and state income tax among earners. And that is completely an unfair tax. I am not going to change your mind and you have been utterly unable to change mine as your facts are no less biased than mine.