Torture memos

[tw]

Originally Posted by classicman

lol- good one or two, but seriously would you stick to your ideals and let potentially thousands die?

How often must facts be ignored? Jemaah Islamiya was destroyed BECAUSE nobody was tortured. That alone shows without doubt that classicman is lying. So that thousands would not die, Indonesia kept torturers (such as Nazis, George Jr, and classicman) away. Since they did not torture, thousands of lives were saved.

As the FBI and other professionals note (even America's WWII interrogators), the well is poisoned when torture is used. Only those educated by 24 (or with a UG mentality) would deny this. In fact, anyone who advocates torture is a threat to fundamental American principles.

They tortured the Iraqi General repeatedly so that he died. He would not disclose where Saddam was hiding his WMDs. Wacko extremists approved. Death proved that torture works. Obviously his death caused other to disclose Saddam’s WMDs. classicman's logic proves it. He *feels* it works - therefore it must work.

Extremists will even lie to themselves. 1) Extremists first denied that America was torturing. 2) Then lie again to claim torture works. 3) Then lie again to deny that thousands will die if torture is used. How many more lies? Wacko extremism is alive and well. Which even justifies lying? Only head in the sand are extremists who must always deny facts to believe their feelings.

Lying is routine among religous extremists and those who love to torture. Worse, classicman will not even deny his many lies including the above three.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by tw

In fact, anyone who advocates torture is a threat to fundamental American principles.

This is really all you had to say.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by tw

How often must facts be ignored? Extremists will even lie to themselves.
Worse, classicman will not even deny his many lies including the above three.

You cannot be serious. I need not deny anything. It is here for all to see. Your insanity is leaching out in all your posts. You better take an extra dose before writing any more. Perhaps another Dr's visit is in order as well.

The fact that there is dissent in the opinions of those who know infinitely more than you or I does not constitute MY BELIEF. The fact that there is information and professionals who disagree with you and may be right - IS A REALITY. Deal with it.I post their opinions and the information as it is available. All you post are things that support your position. How enlightening that must be - NOT.