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Old 05-20-2009, 06:37 PM   #1
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My youngest is still in assessment at OHSU, but despite being highly intelligent and doing well in school, she has some clear neurodevelopment issues and a language delay, and has had three-hour screaming fits because it was getting dark and she didn't want it to get dark. Another good one was her hours-long screaming, choking, sobbing meltdown because she wanted me to get all of the water out of the house.
And as you say, she is "in assessment" for what is clearly abnormal behavior. You believe that 30 years ago, such a thing would have simply been accepted as normal? That 30 years ago, she would have fit in just fine, and no one would have suspected she had a problem?

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That clip wasn't very impressive, simply because I've never had a two-year-old who DIDN'T act like that. I have three.
Yes, and your children scream for three hours because they don't want it to get dark, too.

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I don't want you to think I am being a smart ass here but who has peer reviewed the book. The book needs to be peer reviewed to have that much validity to reverse decades of previously peer reviewed research. It needs to be backed up by some pretty big names or there is no way to prove that the authors observations and research is valid.
Martha R. Herbert, MD, PhD, Assistant Professor of Neurology, Harvard Medical School. She's listed on the back; I don't know who else might support it. But you have to understand, there is no new research here. It is itself a peer review of existing studies.
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Old 05-20-2009, 07:02 PM   #2
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Martha R. Herbert, MD, PhD, Assistant Professor of Neurology, Harvard Medical School. She's listed on the back; I don't know who else might support it. But you have to understand, there is no new research here. It is itself a peer review of existing studies.
That is a peer review of one. Peer review in the field of medical research is done by a panel of peers who are not connected in anyway to the author. I would say that a good measure of what she may be on to is that others cite her book as a source for the stimulus of original research on ideas she puts forth, that is the ultimate recognition of of the general validity of her ideas. Maybe it is to new for that.
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Old 05-20-2009, 08:36 PM   #3
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And as you say, she is "in assessment" for what is clearly abnormal behavior. You believe that 30 years ago, such a thing would have simply been accepted as normal? That 30 years ago, she would have fit in just fine, and no one would have suspected she had a problem?
<shrug> I was exactly the same way 33 years ago, at least according to my sister and my mom. I was just thought of as "difficult" or "spoiled", and that was the norm for the time. Some kid were just "difficult" or "high-strung". If you don't believe me, look at old parenting books. I was not diagnosed with ADHD until 1990, because when I was little, kids didn't have ADHD... they were just "bad". Do you see what I'm getting at?

Even my smallest's teacher thought that maybe she just had a hearing problem. She is almost completely silent and very withdrawn when we are not at home. It was after we had her hearing tested, and she went to a language development specialist who said that her development is not delayed enough to be considered abnormal, that we decided to take her to the neurodevelopmental center. She is not "clearly abnormal" unless a context is offered other than "high strung", "spirited", or "difficult". I have those books. I decided to pursue the possibility that there is more to it than that.

My older kids acted like that at age two and three, but are very social and outgoing in school... they do very well socially and academically. I don't think there's anything wrong with them at all.

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