Lebanon voted against their fascists; Britain elected a few

[classicman]

Well put SG. Virtually NO ONE agrees with the murder of Dr. Tiller, but if one recognizes that some people viewed Dr. Tiller as a murderer of innocent unborn children.

I have many thoughts about your post sugar, but I'll just say I noticed you didn't mention anything about the recruiter that was killed though. Was that because it wasn't a right wing extremist who killed him?

And Bill O'Reilly is guilty of inciting a murder? GTFOH.

[glatt]

Classic, if you are talking about sugarpop, read the post again. I was actually impressed that she included the recruiter.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by classicman

Well put SG. Virtually NO ONE agrees with the murder of Dr. Tiller, but if one recognizes that some people viewed Dr. Tiller as a murderer of innocent unborn children.

I have many thoughts about your post sugar, but I'll just say I noticed you didn't mention anything about the recruiter that was killed though. Was that because it wasn't a right wing extremist who killed him?

And Bill O'Reilly is guilty of inciting a murder? GTFOH.

I did mention the recruiter, but I didn't mention him after talking about the HSD brief that was leaked because I don't think he was a right wing extremist, and the brief was about hate crimes going up because of rightwing radicalism. He did commit a hate crime though. I suppose by definition he was also a terrorist. Killing an innocent person for political reasons. Killing a recruiter definitely is political in nature.

And a terrorist is someone who creates terror by committing crimes aimed at a specific purpose, usually political in nature. The radical arm of the pro-life movement certainly qualifies that definition. They have made abortion doctors extremely fearful. Many of them travel with security people and have bulletproof glass on their cars and in their clinics. Many doctors have quit performing abortions because of the violence. Pro-life radicals put doctors addresses on websites along with language aimed at inciting people to go kill them. Bill O'Reilly said over and over and over on his show Dr. Tiller was a "baby killer."

Regardless of what you think of abortion, it is LEGAL in this country. Dr. Tiller was one of only THREE doctors left in this country who would perform late term abortions, and he still performed them even though he had been shot in both arms in a previous attack by a rightwing, pro-life extremist. Now there are only two. So IF you are a woman, and you get pregnant, and you want the baby, but something happens late in the pregnancy and you need to terminate the pregnancy, good luck getting an abortion.

In fact, even regular abortion is sorely underserviced in this country. There are less than half the number of doctors there were back in the 70s. Some places you have to drive hundreds of miles to get an abortion. All of that is because of these radical assholes who feel they must force their views and beliefs on the rest of society. And they are succeeding. Because of terrorism.

The other guy who went to the Holocaust Museum was a fanatic, and also a terrorist. Go look at his writings. They are online somewhere. Any organized group that wants to do harm to a whole group of people because of political reasons is by definition a terrorist.