Lebanon voted against their fascists; Britain elected a few

sugarpop · 06-16-2009, 07:24 PM

HOLY CRAP BATMAN! I had no idea there had been that many! I had completely forgotten about that nutcase who thought Obama was going to take his guns, so he killed those cops, but I don't remember hearing about the other ones. And that makes Napolitano's brief even more prescient. I wonder if anyone who spoke badly about her for that will apologize. Probably not.

Bullitt · 06-16-2009, 07:37 PM

1. Do we have figures detailing if and by how much "hate crime" rates have risen since Obama was inaugurated or elected? And are we going by the inauguration date or the election date?

2. Stats 101: Correlation does not mean causation. Just because ice cream sales are rising and so are drownings doesn't mean one influences the other. Summer coming around is the lurking variable. I have a hard time accepting such a broad cause/effect like that (Obama elected = more "hate crimes").

**Disclaimer: not a fan of the "hate crime" label to begin with. A murder is a murder and the perpetrator should be punished accordingly. Having this dubious label of "hate crime",and more strict punishments for them, I would argue does nothing to deter further crimes with racial, religious, socio-economic, etc. motivation.

Happy Monkey · 06-17-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt

**Disclaimer: not a fan of the "hate crime" label to begin with. A murder is a murder and the perpetrator should be punished accordingly.

Murder is a crime, and threatening is a crime. Murder as a threat is two crimes, together called a hate crime.

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Bullitt This is a fully functional babe lair Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 2,324	1. Do we have figures detailing if and by how much "hate crime" rates have risen since Obama was inaugurated or elected? And are we going by the inauguration date or the election date? 2. Stats 101: Correlation does not mean causation. Just because ice cream sales are rising and so are drownings doesn't mean one influences the other. Summer coming around is the lurking variable. I have a hard time accepting such a broad cause/effect like that (Obama elected = more "hate crimes"). *Disclaimer: not a fan of the "hate crime" label to begin with. A murder is a murder and the perpetrator should be punished accordingly. Having this dubious label of "hate crime",and more strict punishments for them, I would argue does nothing to deter further crimes with racial, religious, socio-economic, etc. motivation. __________________ Kiss my white Irish ass. Last edited by Bullitt; 06-16-2009 at 07:43 PM.*

06-16-2009, 07:24 PM	#1
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	HOLY CRAP BATMAN! I had no idea there had been that many! I had completely forgotten about that nutcase who thought Obama was going to take his guns, so he killed those cops, but I don't remember hearing about the other ones. And that makes Napolitano's brief even more prescient. I wonder if anyone who spoke badly about her for that will apologize. Probably not.

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