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TheMercenary · 07-25-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Yup, Firefox will import all bookmarks/favorites. Don't know about cookies and passwords.

How about disk space on the HD? more, less, or about the same?

Undertoad · 07-25-2009, 11:54 AM

Less. Its hard disk footprint is tiny compared to IE.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-25-2009, 12:05 PM

How many times a week do you have to update it?

Undertoad · 07-25-2009, 12:11 PM

Maybe once a month?

I consider that a good thing, as there are updates for just about every major security breach. That's how it should be. IE6 went three years before MS decided to upgrade. As a result, for a long time, the biggest reason to move to Firefox was security problems in IE6.

mbpark · 07-25-2009, 01:25 PM

The scary part is that IE6 will receive security updates until 2014 due to the fact that IE6 SP3 was included in Windows XP Service Pack 3, and most other browsers, including Firefox 3.x, won't.

Undertoad · 07-25-2009, 01:32 PM

"Automatically check for updates" is the default setting in Firefox... that's probably just about as effective as Windows Update.

Besides, if people are still running a 2003-style interface in 2014, that will be terribly sad. Hopefully Windows 7 will be an acceptable platform...

TheMercenary · 07-25-2009, 01:41 PM

So UT, are you a Windows supporter or an Mac supporter? Why one over the other?

I have seriously considered changing to MAC for my next laptop. If nothing else because of the lack of viruses being written to attack them, not that they are immune, just significantly less.

mbpark · 07-25-2009, 02:34 PM

UT,

There are people still running Mac OS 8.5 and OS 9 for jobs they need. There still will be people running it for embedded control apps or healthcare IT in 2014, specifically because the cost of certifying certain apps for FDA compliance is ridiculously expensive when you change a component like a browser.

I hope that the only IE6 that I see running by then will be Windows Server 2003 R2 with its own version of IE6 running in Citrix to support those apps

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Flint · 07-25-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mbpark

Flint,

I suppose you are mentioning GE?

What? :::nervous chuckle::: Of course, I would never disparage the meatball :::looks over my shoulder:::

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Originally Posted by mbpark

At least GE will do the integration for you, and will gladly charge you a lot of money for it.

Don't be ridiculous, my dear man! The DICOM and HL7 "standards" are here to make integration worries a thing of the past!

mbpark · 07-25-2009, 09:52 PM

Flint,

We have our systems integrated. It cost us nearly 7 figures and a custom e*Gate implementation maintained by 2 full-time staff, plus additional professional services work from GE, but we did it.

I spent yesterday hearing about "McKesson's implementation of the 835". There's a reason why SeeBeyond/Sun/Oracle gets a lot of money from us every year, and it's because every vendor implements standards their own way, and we have staff that does nothing but maintain the message translations.

Don't even start me on HL7 XML

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Originally Posted by Flint

What? :::nervous chuckle::: Of course, I would never disparage the meatball :::looks over my shoulder:::
Don't be ridiculous, my dear man! The DICOM and HL7 "standards" are here to make integration worries a thing of the past!

Undertoad · 07-25-2009, 10:38 PM

There is no real problem choosing either Mac or PC, except that more games are written to the PC platform. Mac is particularly well-suited to the laptop platform where there aren't many hardware upgrades and such. The latest Mac displays are beautiful.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-26-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mbpark

The scary part is that IE6 will receive security updates until 2014 due to the fact that IE6 SP3 was included in Windows XP Service Pack 3,~snip

I had changed to IE-7, and when I upgraded to Service Pack 3, it didn't change it back to 6. Should it have? Not that I wanted it to, just wondering if Service Pack 3 installed properly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

"Automatically check for updates" is the default setting in Firefox... that's probably just about as effective as Windows Update.

If this is open source, where everybody can have their hand in the pot, how do you get updates automatically? Is there somebody running the show?

TheMercenary · 07-26-2009, 08:41 PM

I have one computer that refuses to update to the SP3. And I have no idea why. It goes through the whole down load and then at the very last sec, no can load. I need to figure it out since it is our mainframe puter for the house. The various laptops all have their problems, we except for the kids MAC's.

ZenGum · 07-27-2009, 03:55 AM

Undertoad · 07-27-2009, 07:37 AM

Firefox is managed by the Mozilla Foundation, a non-profit organization.

07-25-2009, 12:05 PM	#18
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07-26-2009, 08:41 PM	#28
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	I have one computer that refuses to update to the SP3. And I have no idea why. It goes through the whole down load and then at the very last sec, no can load. I need to figure it out since it is our mainframe puter for the house. The various laptops all have their problems, we except for the kids MAC's. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

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07-25-2009, 11:54 AM	#17
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Less. Its hard disk footprint is tiny compared to IE.

07-25-2009, 12:11 PM	#19
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Maybe once a month? I consider that a good thing, as there are updates for just about every major security breach. That's how it should be. IE6 went three years before MS decided to upgrade. As a result, for a long time, the biggest reason to move to Firefox was security problems in IE6.

07-25-2009, 01:25 PM	#20
mbpark Lecturer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 761	The scary part is that IE6 will receive security updates until 2014 due to the fact that IE6 SP3 was included in Windows XP Service Pack 3, and most other browsers, including Firefox 3.x, won't.

07-25-2009, 01:32 PM	#21
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	"Automatically check for updates" is the default setting in Firefox... that's probably just about as effective as Windows Update. Besides, if people are still running a 2003-style interface in 2014, that will be terribly sad. Hopefully Windows 7 will be an acceptable platform...

07-25-2009, 02:34 PM	#23
mbpark Lecturer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 761	UT, There are people still running Mac OS 8.5 and OS 9 for jobs they need. There still will be people running it for embedded control apps or healthcare IT in 2014, specifically because the cost of certifying certain apps for FDA compliance is ridiculously expensive when you change a component like a browser. I hope that the only IE6 that I see running by then will be Windows Server 2003 R2 with its own version of IE6 running in Citrix to support those apps .

07-25-2009, 10:38 PM	#26
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	There is no real problem choosing either Mac or PC, except that more games are written to the PC platform. Mac is particularly well-suited to the laptop platform where there aren't many hardware upgrades and such. The latest Mac displays are beautiful.

07-27-2009, 07:37 AM	#30
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Firefox is managed by the Mozilla Foundation, a non-profit organization.

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