The Obamanation

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I have no problem with the Majority rule. And for you to defend the practices of that scumbag Pelosi states much about how you see the world in your rose colored glasses. She has Rahmrodded the legislation through with very little input from Republickins. She promised change and nothing has changed. The Demoncrats are no better then when the other party was in charge.

I dont defend all of Pelosi's actions but it is a fact that the minority party in the House has more rights now than under the Hastert rule...compare the House rules.

In case you dont understand what the Hastert rule was, it required support of the "majority of the majority" (ie a majority of Republicans at the time) in order for an amendment to even be considered.

Pelosi's first action as Speaker was to end that rule. The Republicans have had opportunities to offer amendments on every piece of legislation to reach the floor of the House....a fact.

The practical result of the end of the Hastert rule? Here is one example from last year. The FISA reform enacted would NEVER have passed if Pelosi had kept the Hastert rule in place because it NEVER had a "majority of the majority" (Democrats) support . As a result of the no-Hastert rule, a bi-partisan bill passed.

Great so where are all the jobs?

Most objective observers recognize that the recovery bill projections are for an 18 month - 2 year time span.

You must still work for the Demoncratic Party right?

Don't you think the "Demon"izing is little childish?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

I dont defend all of Pelosi's actions but it is a fact that the minority party in the House has more rights now than under the Hastert rule...compare the House rules.

In case, you dont understand what the Hastert rule was, it required support of the "majority of the majority" (ie a majority of Republicans at the time) in order for an amendment to even be considered.

Pelosi's first action as Speaker was to end that rule.

Good on her.

Most objective observers recognize that the recovery bill projections are for an 18 month - 2 year time span.

Where are all the "shovel ready jobs" being stimulated? Or was that more BS to get the bill passed. President Obama says the stimulus will create or save 3.5 million jobs. Where are they?

Don't you think the "Demon"izing is little childish?

Absolutely not. If the shoe fits...

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Where are all the "shovel ready jobs" being stimulated?.....Where are they?

John Boehner, the Republican minority leader in the House said the same thing last month and came off looking like an idiot:

In Ohio, the infrastructure dollars that were sent there months ago — there hasn’t been a contract let, to my knowledge. And the fact is is that I don’t believe it will create jobs."

The OHIO DOT stepped right in and called him out:

With the awarding of more than $36.9 million in construction contracts today, the Ohio Department of Transportation is spurring the creation and retention of hundreds of construction-related jobs by investing federal stimulus funds into 29 roadway and bridges projects across the state.

Combined with the contracts awarded so far using funds from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, ODOT has awarded more than $83.9 million in contracts for work on 52 projects - a combination of interstate, local roadway and bridge modernization projects.

http://www.dot.state.oh.us/news/Page...latedJobs.aspx

So Boeher was either lying to make political points or was clueless.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by Redux

John Boehner, the Republican minority leader in the House said the same thing last month and came off looking like an idiot:

In Ohio, the infrastructure dollars that were sent there months ago — there hasn’t been a contract let, to my knowledge. And the fact is is that I don’t believe it will create jobs."

The OHIO DOT stepped right in and called him out:


So Boeher was either lying to make political points or was clueless.

IF ANYONE EVER READ ANYTHING I WRITE AND THAT INCLUDES YOU REDUX, WHOSE SIDE I HAPPEN TO BE ON, YOU WOULD REMEMBER ME TELLING YOU THERE'S A SIGN ON THE INTERSTATE SAYING PROJECT FUNDED BY THE AMERICAN RECOVERY AND REINVESTMENT ACT.

I'd get out of my car in the middle of the interstate to take a pic, but you wouldn't read that post either.

Seriously Red, besides arguing with merc, do you ever pay attention to ANYONE else?

Oh, why do I try to engage you self-absorbed asshats?

I'll be careful what I wish for.

DOOM DESPAIR COMPLETE AND UTTER FAILURE ALERT

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

IF ANYONE EVER READ ANYTHING I WRITE AND THAT INCLUDES YOU REDUX, WHOSE SIDE I HAPPEN TO BE ON, YOU WOULD REMEMBER ME TELLING YOU THERE'S A SIGN ON THE INTERSTATE SAYING PROJECT FUNDED BY THE AMERICAN RECOVERY AND REINVESTMENT ACT.

I'd get out of my car in the middle of the interstate to take a pic, but you wouldn't read that post either.

Seriously Red, besides arguing with merc, do you ever pay attention to ANYONE else?

Oh, why do I try to engage you self-absorbed asshats?

I'll be careful what I wish for.

DOOM DESPAIR COMPLETE AND UTTER FAILURE ALERT

I will try to be more attentive.