Impeding changes to our Health Care system

[dar512]

Originally Posted by jinx

How do you know if you can afford something if you don't know how much it costs?

By that argument, government can do nothing. (Yeah. I know. Some people will say that's an improvement.) But the truth is that everything that the government does at that level will cut a wide swath. There's no way you can tally all the downstream costs.

I gotta go with Kitsune on this one. 1) I haven't seen any figures that undocumented immigrants are a significant portion of those getting free treatment. 2) Even if you've got figures to show the above, this is not a med insurance issue. It's a whole other deal. I'd say give 'em all social security cards, let 'em pay taxes like the rest of us and call it a day.

Originally Posted by dar512

By that argument, government can do nothing. (Yeah. I know. Some people will say that's an improvement.) But the truth is that everything that the government does at that level will cut a wide swath. There's no way you can tally all the downstream costs.

I gotta go with Kitsune on this one. 1) I haven't seen any figures that undocumented immigrants are a significant portion of those getting free treatment. 2) Even if you've got figures to show the above, this is not a med insurance issue. It's a whole other deal. I'd say give 'em all social security cards, let 'em pay taxes like the rest of us and call it a day.

Absolutely. This is not an immigration reform bill.

And, the last report I saw, many illegal immigrants pay fica taxes (as a result of having a fake SS card) and are contributing to social security to the tune of $6 billion annually and Medicare to the tune of $1.5 billion annually and wont reap the direct benefits.