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Old 09-18-2009, 03:58 AM   #1
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I should add that Aristotelian arguments stemming from the social forms of the telos of the polis are machinist, in that they honour the human superorganism, the city-state. This organism does not have human qualities, or human values, and it's own values are not relevant to what is good for human beings.

Not only are they not relevant, they are inimical. The city-state is to the human subject what a Silon is to Starbuck.

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Old 09-18-2009, 06:16 AM   #2
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And I should also add that my attitude to religion is not personal. I have no sense that religion motivates the kind of prejudice of which I've been a victim.

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Old 09-18-2009, 06:28 AM   #3
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Not only are they not relevant, they are inimical. The city-state is to the human subject what a Silon is to Starbuck.
Would that also hold true for the nation state?

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Old 09-18-2009, 06:52 AM   #4
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Would that also hold true for the nation state?
Yep. Same thing really. It's complicated. I'm patriotic in a way, but I put people before flags I suppose.
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Old 09-18-2009, 08:15 AM   #5
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Nuttin' jus sayin'
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