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Old 09-18-2009, 03:42 PM   #11
sean
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce View Post
2. Engineering and technology are not science.
They produce a product which tests the result.
The only product of science is knowledge, which is
too abstract and illusive to resist corruption.
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Nor is medicine a science, a fact that routinely evades notice.

It's interesting to me that both medicine and engineering have well defined methods of their own, and benefit from not being confused with science, just as science benefits from being understood on its own terms, and yet the confusion persists.

I think much of the confusion stems from scientifically illiterate managerialism and the marketing of a profitable but incorrect idea of science to the public.

On Intelligent Design, I also think there's a degree of fundamentalism in the atheist camp. I think Richard Dawkins might be an example. However, I understand the frustration of biologists when confronted with the duplicitous and obfuscatory tactics of Creationists.

But I think there are deeper grounds for a scientific rejection of ID than that of distinguishing randomness from predictability. That's a mathematical problem anyway. What makes ID unscientific is the principle of parsimony, and also the problem of who designed the designer? Darwin's dangerous idea by Daniel Dennett is the best exposition I know of on this subject.

On my own agenda, here's a recent example of the suppression of science that rivals the trial of Galileo.
Rind, Tromovitch, and Bauserman: Politically Incorrect - Scientifically Correct
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