Impeding changes to our Health Care system

Look, you can scream "screwing the people" all you want if that works for you. You can cite the CBO when you like it. as you have in the past, and criticize it when you dont and you can post your editorials and industry reports that have a bias than any objective observer would recognize.

I think the bills have taken an approach that I generally support...there are no guarantees, but IMO, they represent the best way forward.

Time will tell.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Look, you can scream "screwing the people" all you want if that works for you.

I think the bills have promise...there are no guarantees, but IMO, they represent the best way forward.

Time will tell.

Now you are avoiding the questions and are unable to support your positions. Can you prove the insurance companies are actually just using "lies and fear-mongering that the industry and conservatives jointly and collaboratively perpetuated throughout most of the "debate"' and they really are not going to pass along the costs to all the rest of us that have insurance.

People like you are why the Demoncrats are beginning to fail in such a big way and they are now turning on each other. The majority don't really agree with the majority of anything. They are just a loose organization of vaguely interested parties all fighting for a piece of the power pie. And now that they have beaten the Republikins they are starting to turn on each other. Senate says no public option. Pelosi says no bill without it. So which is it. Who are you guys going to screw next? Really you are just going to start to screw each other because you can't get it together enough to pass something that addresses the root problems in the industry, you have made back door deals with Big Pharm and the Insurance Industry and now they are starting to turn on you. And yet your attitude is, "Eh, whatever, something is better than nothing." What BS. Grow some nads. Do the right thing and tell the insurance companies to fuck off and get them under control. This goes right back to what Henry said. You are just going to let them pass the bills off that screw other people as long as you can shift blame.

And now we actually have the insurance companies TELLING Us they are going to make everyone else pay for their increased costs and risk. And you guys pretend like there is nothing there. Pass it off and some conspiracy. "It's not true", "There really not going to do that, they just want to scare you."

I don't buy your bullshit and most of the American public does not either.