Man's Inhumanity to Man (and Woman)

[Shawnee123]

"Get" women. "Girls at his feet."

If the first friend in your example hasn't yet committed date rape, he probably will...or worse.

You're young, but I still read into your posts, and there have been posts before, the idea of women as objects. I don't think you think that, rather, I think it's the very subtle ways of speech that point toward the lingering belief that women are to be somehow fooled into giving you some.

Women as equals (no, not the 'same' but equal. as humans). Ahhhh, now there's a lovely idea.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

You're young, but I still read into your posts, and there have been posts before, the idea of women as objects. I don't think you think that, rather, I think it's the very subtle ways of speech that point toward the lingering belief that women are to be somehow fooled into giving you some.

My generation is extremely sexist and I will admit that even though I try, I can not get rid of all sexist tendencies, especially the subtle ones that I will not usually pick up on.

But for the wording, it was suppose to contrast the first person to make a point. Even though I now see how it came off like that, my intention was not to subtly say that an intelligent male can trick women into likely them but that learning from your mistakes will bring you success in the future and blaming others (when it is your fault) will usually only lead to hurtful behavior.

As for my personal views, I will admit that I do see some women purely in a sexual form but I do not see all women in that way. I think it is almost impossible for us to not look at some people in purely a sexual fashion but the line is drawn is when you start generalizing women as sex objects.

Hooking up is a large part of today's youth culture and when talking about that specifically, it is extremely difficult to not come off as sexist because you are treating everyone as sex objects. I have no problem with the "hook up mindset" as long as it is done in a consensual and equal way and that it is only temporary and does not overtake your entire views towards women.

If the first friend in your example hasn't yet committed date rape, he probably will...or worse.

As far as I know, he has never forced sexual contact on a woman but he does blame women for not giving him sexual attention. But yes, that entitled mindset can lead to very hurtful actions. I have brought it up with him before and I will very soon again and I honestly don't think I can affiliate with him anymore.

For example I've heard him complain about how he only got a kiss from a girl he went on a date with even though he drove 20 minutes to pick her and her friends up, had to wait two hours for them to eat, then drive her 20 minutes back to his place, sit around for an hour or so, and then drive her 20 minutes back home. His mindset is that he should get rewarded for his efforts, not that she should do what she wants to do. This is an obvious example of a entitled mindset and bringing us back to the original point of the thread, can lead to really hurtful and condescending actions.